Re: [Harp-L] Enough with the "amps vs. tone" already!



Thanks Michael. I was basically an acoustic player for years. When I started using amplified gear, I knew nothing. I used this list for information, and now have a rig that works for me. Thanks to all on this list, who helped me. I continue to learn from this list.

Bullfrog

On 6/30/2010 12:43 PM, michael rubin wrote:
Although I am very workhorse about my mic and amp (I use a green
bullet and a 59 Bassman reissue) I hate this line of thinking that the
greatest masters of the instrument did not care about their gear.  How
the heck do you know what they thought about?  Same thing goes with
the idea that they knew nothing about theory.  What?  These were the
greatest players of their time!  I don't buy it.

Also, I say bicker away!  This is a CHAT ROOM!  If one person reads
one person's email, gets an idea about how to improve their gear and
then actually improves it, the system works!
Michael Rubin
Michaelrubinharmonica.com

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:21 AM,<harmoniman@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I cant imagine Sonny Boy, the Walters, Howlin Wolf, Jimmy Reed, etc., bickering about tone, gear, amps...they just played the blues.

----- Original Message -----
From: bfrain@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx, "william lifford"<william.lifford@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:16:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Enough with the "amps vs. tone" already!

i enjoy gear discussions. if it's a thread i'm not interested in after some exploration, i just delete the responses. if a thread garners a lot of responses, maybe the group enjoys talking about it. if YOU don't, just do what i do... :)
i've learned some very important things about gear on harp-l: afb+, lone wolf delay, switching tubes, etc.
---- william.lifford@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
Hello Harp-L friends,

This whole thread is exhausting for many of us.

A couple of times a year, someone will post a question to the tune of "how can get a tone like so-and-so's using xyz mic and zyx amp," and the list comes alive with a million responses.

Ninety percent of the responses say the same thing: "the tone doesn't come from the amp, it comes from the player, blah blah blah." Over the next few days, the Tone Police continue to pile on, each with a variation of the same sentiment.

Maybe we could have a couple of months moratorium on preachy blanket statements such as "the amp doesn't create tone; the player does" and all that other stuff...

I mean, we have guys "endorse" amps that they don't even own, along with all the commercial amp postings about which pro player is using this amp or that amp, etc.

There is a conflict of interest here when members of the Tone Police (the ones who jump on the bandwagon and make all these preachy "good acoustic tone is all you need, not an expensive amp" statements) also perpetuate the opposite notion... that their botuique harp amp is the ultimate tone-generating machine.

Just my two cents,

Bill
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