Re: [Harp-L] Re: Miles Davis, So What / position exploration / harp

["John F. Potts" <hvyj@xxxxxxx>]

Bill,

Your secret is safe with me.  But, although i get around in multiple  
positions pretty well, i don't OB.  The tab with the correlation to  
scale tones is very helpful, though.  I need to study it a little to  
work out what note selections available to me w/o OBs will work in a  
performance setting.  Sometimes there's ways to play a tune on a  
diatonic, but the phrasing  isn't practical for up tempo live  
performance--I'm not suggesting that's the situation here, but  
experience has taught me that just becuase something CAN be played in  
a certain position on a diatonic doesn't always mean that it's  
practical to do in a perfrormance setting.

But. thanks for doing this.  it's really helpful.  i have no formal  
music training, so it can be somewhat laborious for me to figure out  
which notes make up which chords in which keys.  But this makes it  
easy since you've done it for me!

Best regards,

JP


On Jun 11, 2010, at 1:14 PM, Bill wrote:

> Ok, I've written out the scales in tab showing the notes for a Bb  
> harp over 2 octaves - The schema for the tab is 3 = 3 draw, 3+ = 3  
> blow, 3' = 3 1/2 step bend, 3'' = 3 whole step bend etc 4o/7o = 4ob  
> or 7od.  Also Rt = Root note
>
> D Dorian 5th position
> +2 (D-Rt), '2 (E-2nd), 2/+3 (F-b3), 3'' (G-4th), 3 (A-5th),  
> 4' (B-6th), 4 (C-b7), +5 (D-Rt), 5o (E-2nd), +6 (F-b3), 6 (G-4th),  
> 7o (B-6th), 8 (C-b7), +8 (D-Rt)
>
> Eb Dorian 12th Position
> 2'' (Eb-Rt), 2/+3 (F-2nd), 3''' (Gb-b3), 3' (Ab-4th), +4 (Bb-5th),  
> 4 (C-6th), 4o (Db-b7), 5 (Eb-RT), +6 (F-2nd), 6' (Gb-b3), 6o  
> (Ab-4th), +7 (Bb-5th), 8 (C- 6th), +8' (Db-b7), 9 (Eb-Rt)
>
> Actually the only reason i started to learn to overblow is because  
> I'm crap at juggling - lol!  Also I'm on my own on the graveyard  
> shift at work and eager for a distraction from writing the other  
> kind of less pleasurable notes that I'm seriously behind with, so  
> please don't say anything to my boss.
>
> Bx
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 5:01 PM, John F. Potts <hvyj@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Yeah, using 2 harps (C and Db) is how I've been doing it. The idea  
> of using i harp (Bb) is intriguing.  But, as I understand it, the  
> head of tune has 16 measures of  D dorian minor scale tones a step  
> apart, modulates to Eb dorian minor scale tones a step apart for a  
> 8 measures, and then modulates back to D minor dorian scale tones.
>
> I think the Eb scale tones that I play on the Db harp are Ab and Gb  
> which don't lay out that well on a Bb harp.  Also, Bb is NOT part  
> of the D dorian scale--it would be the flat sixth and that scale  
> has a major sixth. Right off the top I'm having trouble transposing  
> the parts i usually play to a Bb harp, but, there may be other note  
> selections that will work--I'm not sure.