Re: [Harp-L] Re: Stevie Wonder known as a harmonica player?
 
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- Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Re: Stevie Wonder known as a harmonica player?
- From: joe leone <3n037@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:18:10 -0400
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On Apr 28, 2010, at 1:07 AM, jazmaan wrote:
I think you may be a little too cynical Joe.
My heart tells me things, then my logic takes over. 27 years of  
investigations will do that for you. :) As you may or may not recall,  
every time I interjected anything into one of your posts over the  
years, I was always supportive of you, kind, and diplomatic. I  
consider you a genuine talent...even BEFORE I had met you. I wasn't  
disappointed. The little times I spent in your presence were  
exciting. I remember them with fondness.
  Although Berry Gordy certainly wouldn't have been reluctant to  
hype Stevie as a genius just to make a few more bucks,  don't you  
think it's also possible that he might have been totally blown away  
by the 12 year old?
Sure. I don't know Gordy nor have I ever met him, but I would say  
that Stevie walking in there was roughly analogous to me walking into  
Prudential and saying that I had a couple million to invest.
  You can't say Berry didn't know musical talent when he saw it.   
He's the same man who signed Smokey Robinson,  Marvin Gaye and  
Michael Jackson.
I know musical talent when I see it too. Problem is that there are a  
lot of people out there with marginal talent and doing fine while  
talented people languish. I think it has a lot to do with marketing.  
Take Wonder (for instance). Do you see an attempt here to make Steve  
look maybe a little more than he was (at the time)?. I mean, it's a  
play on words. No where in his TWO last names do I see the word  
Wonder. Ok, enough about that.
Btw, I happen to like Smokey, Marvin, and was sad when Michael died.  
If anything happened to Steve, I would be IMMENSELY sad. I can't say  
that about too many people.
Don't you (think) that the "Genius" label would have been disputed  
by all the other superlative talent at Motown if they didn't  
believe in it?
I can't answer for what others think, but I think that it was all a  
matter of opportunity. A baby boy is born blind. The family is  
devastated. What to do? Well, from what I know about blind children,  
you're supposed to watch over them and take care of them more than  
you would another child. I believe in my heart that his family did  
just that. They kept him warm, fed, safe, protected, nurtured,  
supported. Somewhere along the line maybe someone got the idea that  
musician was what Steve should aspire to. People like to make a big  
deal about musicians BUT it's one of the few jobs that a blind person  
can hold. Surely he wasn't cut out to be a watch maker.
  Isn't it possible that the 12 year old Stevie might have already  
sung them snatches of the still nascent "Uptight", "Signed, Sealed,  
Delivered",  "I Was Made to Love Her" and convinced Holland, Dozier  
& Holland and everyone else at Motown that he was a boundless  
fountain of immeasurable talent?
Sure, I feel he IS an immense talent, BUT it was also a lot of work.  
He may be gifted but I don't think it came from heaven. For example,  
other kids are shooting hoops all day. Maybe they are thinking about  
a scholorship? Maybe they are the 1 in a million to get into the NBA.  
Meanwhile Steve is practicing. Ok, let's say that while other kids  
are playing ball, 'I' am spending my Sat shining shoes on the Staten  
Is. Ferry, and Sun I am down at the dump pulling copper and brass out  
of the discarded appliances for spending money. During the week, I  
deliver papers. Meanwhile Steve is practicing.
He's sitting on the front porch playing harmonica while other kids  
are doing other things. That's what I meant when I said "He had  
nothing else to do". I doubt that he ever had to hunt for a sandwich.  
The only person he had to worry about was himself. In fact, even HE  
didn't have to worry about himself. Someone did it for him. His  
wonderful family. Then, when the eagles started to fly, HE returned  
the loving care BACK.
I heard a rumor once that a blind person has enhances other senses.  
Maybe his hearing was enhanced? I don't know.
And what about the fact that Stevie wasn't copying anyone, not  
Toots, not Larry Adler, not ANYONE when he recorded "Fingertips,"  
his first hit?
I agree. When I started playing, I never copied anyone either. I love  
and admire his playing and have never tried to copy it. Why not? Out  
of respect. I know that will ruffle feathers, but that's what it is.  
I actually admire him so much that I refrain from even trying to play  
like him.
I don't know Steve, and have never met him, but I have seen him  
around for these past 50 years or so. From what I can glean, he is a  
sweetheart of a guy without a malicious bone in his body. But  
wouldn't YOU be too? I mean, a blind man is hardly in a position to  
create enemies. Wouldn't be smart. Wouldn't be safe neither.
  At 12 he's already created his own NEW conception of harmonica  
playing, he's doing it live, the audience is electrified, and now  
almost 50 years later, professional harp players like Randy Singer  
or Rob Papparozi are STILL influenced by what the 12 year old  
tossed off in that spontaneous reprise.
He had backing and support. He SHOULD have. It would have been a  
terrible waste if things hadn't happened the way they did. Thank God  
someone has the sense to push him.
    Bird created his own conception of jazz.  Jimi Hendrix created  
his own conception of guitar.  Stevie created his own conception of  
chromatic harmonica.   All three of them continue to influence  
later generations of sax, guitar and harmonica players.
So come on Joe,  give it up for the 12 year old genius!
Ok, you want me to give it up. Let me confess. I started playing  
chromo at 12.5. Even though I am several years older than Steve, he  
was already playing. I practiced hard for several years. I was on my  
way. Or so I thought. I was even on a couple Italian records. I heard  
Steve play, and I gave up harmonica. I figured "What the hell..I  
can't compete with that". So now you have it all. My soul is out  
there for all to see.
     
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