Re: [Harp-L] Fifth?

[Grant Walters <grant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I have been listening to "License to smoke" by Gino...
While I don't know him very well and have only seen him at jams...
This guy knows his way  around 3rd position arrangements...He is very fluid...
Seriously..check him out...
Most 3rd position playing I do is a little off in a bluesy way...
I'm a huge Charlie listener..
Gino is getting some great lines...like a Clarinet at times...right in tune too.
He is a harmonihorn player if you will.

Grant
West Coast.....

I am producing  a "Festival of West Coast Blue" show at our Dream Machines Festival this year (Afternoon)
April 25th, at the Half Moon Bay Airport... (California..between San Francisco and Santa Cruz
http://miramarevents.com  It is a huge car/plane/motorcycle/truck/......show...

Andy Santana on Harmonica..with his great band hosting the show.

Terry Hanck is on the Sax...Latter in the afternoon....(the guy is incredible) and some special guests...

If you want to say hi to a fellow Harp-L guy..I will be playing in the morning with Shana Morrison and Claddagh (Celtic/blues/whatever)

enjoy...
Grant
On Apr 14, 2010, at 6:13 PM, GINO wrote:

> Howdy,
>    I agree with Mr. Rubin that 3rd seems easiest, probably because I've been doing it longer and most like 2nd (for me). Were I see being able to play in 5th as beneficial, is blues, pop, ballads etc often go to the minor that relates to the key,,,if the song is in A then the relative is F# minor. Thus 5th would be handy. 
>     I usually choose 3rd or a minor tuned harp for minor songs.There are more chord advantages,on a minor tuned, more bend opportunities, and more chromatic in the middle of the harp without lots of overblows,,and it's more like 2nd (which I'm most familiar with than the other choices). Also easy if the song goes to the flat 6 chord F7 in A minor, like in the thrill is gone. The arpeggio is there, just remember to bend the 4 draw for the dom 7th of the flat 6 chord scale. 
>     I've played in 4th more and more over the years. It too works into popular chord changes 2-5-1's etc. Just this week we set up a harp and changed one note. We took the 3 blow and raised it a whole step. that makes the 3,4,5,6, blow chord (in 4th pos) a 1,3,5,7 dom 7 chord (just like 2,3,4,5 draw in 2nd). If your playing blues the 4 chord is there too, 4,5,6, draw (3rd pos) and the 5 chord, 2,3,4, draw is the 5 chord without the bass (root) note. This tuning is a lot like playing in 1st position. I like 4th  especially with this tuning,,,but a minor tuned is aeolian too so,,,,,,,  A great 5th position song is on Michael Peloquin's House of Cards. Maceosity
> try a minor tuned harp in 1st position....Enjoy
> Did everyone get this or just Red?
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>                Gino
>   "LICENSE TO SMOKE" 
> http://www.ginoharmonica.com
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> ________________________________
> From: Mojo Red <harplicks@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: John F. Potts <hvyj@xxxxxxx>; michael rubin <michaelrubinharmonica@xxxxxxxxx>; Larry Marks <larry.marks@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 8:58:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Fifth?
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> I think the venerable Warren Bee spends a LOT of time killing song after song in 5th. Personally, I've never spent enough time there to get comfortable..
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> Warren? 
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> Harpin' in Colorado,
> --Ken M.
> TeraBlu Band on My Space
> http://www.myspace.com/terablu
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> From: John F. Potts <hvyj@xxxxxxx>
> To: michael rubin <michaelrubinharmonica@xxxxxxxxx>; Larry Marks <larry.marks@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 4:32:06 PM
> Subject: [Harp-L] Ninth?
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> Per Larry Marks:
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> Why one would focus on the difficult 3rd position instead of the much easier and more useful 4th (relative minor).
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> Per Michael Rubin:
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> I see 3rd as much easier and more useful than 4th.  We are all
> different in how we learn.  To me, 3rd is like put a guitar capo up
> the harmonica neck two holes up from cross harp.  It also has more
> rock out potential than 4th, imo.
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> Maestros:
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> Why play 4th or 3d when you can play 5th?  5th has all the considerable advantages of 4th (except for the lack of a major second in 5th) and  all the rock out potential of 3d and is EASIER and more useful than 3d  because there are not as many bends and there is no major sixth to worry about.  It's like playing 2d except it's easier than 2d (not as many bends). You just use blow 2 for root instead of blow 3.
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> Okay, if i need a major second, i'll use 4th and if I'm playing dorian minor, I'll use 3d.  Otherwise, 5th is my first choice for minor key playing by a wide margin.  Very easy, very bluesy, very flexible and, IMHO, very underused. Despite the conventional wisdom, I find 3d more problematic than useful for most minor key playing (unless the material is dorian minor).  For natural minor, I'll use 4th before i'll use 3d, but I'll always use 5th as my first choice (unless the melody includes a major two, in which case I'll use 4th).  For me, 3d is usually a distant third choice. But, YMMV.
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> JP
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