Re: [Harp-L] Miles Davis changing All Blues Meloday

[Joe and Cass Leone <leone@xxxxxxxx>]

On Sep 12, 2009, at 11:55 AM, Splash wrote:

> I guess he means Miles wasn't no Milli-Vanilli

Oh, ok Splash. I'm trying to get a handle on this. It seems as if the  
undercurrent 'I' am getting is that if someone plays jazz? with a  
bluesey bent, that people with a proclivity towards blues will like  
it. If it's not bluesey, those people won't and a different group  
WILL. Now there are those who would swear by this Miles work as being  
the 'all difinitive' work on trumpet (and maybe jazz too). I don't  
see it. I find most of his stuff boring.

Of course I am in the minority? Of course..I must be in the minority.  
Becaaaaause, for years and years, the Playboy jazz poll would have  
Miles as the numero uno trumpet player in the entire world. My only  
problem with that is: what about us who didn't see any point at  
looking at Playboy (and aggravating ourselves) lolol. Maybe WE didn't  
vote. ;) Ok, nuff said  there. Miles must be great. I think you have  
to be or have been a trumpet player to dissect it farther. Suffices  
to say that he WAS a different (overall) sound experience.

So I watched the Mickey Raphael video on this tune 'All Blues'. First  
of all it wasn't jazz. Secondly, I found his warbling to be  
disconcerting and it took away from the mood. There are dang few  
people I would go spend cash monies to see, and Willie Nelson is one  
of them. The reason I don't is because I don't like the warbling.  
Maybe that came from years of using a tremello harp? I don't know?  
This is not to infer that people who like Raphael are wrong. They're  
most likely right.

I also listened to a couple other sides and couldn't get past the 68  
second marks. There was nothing there to grab me. Now before anyone  
misunderstands, I can allow as how these musicians are sans pariel  
when it comes to their musicianship levels, but (frankly) in my  
opinion, they should stick to country-western. Standing around  
smiling at each other picking and grinnin doesn't necessarily make  
for a good delivery. These men have become too commercialized and  
have lost their primitive lean & hungry status. They're not playing  
with their guts.

just my opinion    smokey-joe
> Splash
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe and Cass Leone"
> > >  Miles was one to not "cut and paste" his melodies. This is why
> > > listening to his live recordings are so interesting - he always
> > > played in the immediate moment.
> >
> > I don't understand this. Could you explain?
> > Jo-Zepi
>
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