Re: [Harp-L] The beatings will continue untill tuning improves



 been out of the internet loop for 5 days, moving from FL to Georgia (sold the FL house to a cash buyer) - so, if this subject has been fully discussed, sorry in advance

that William Clarke sound is from out of tune octaves - the fatter the beat, the more the two octave notes are out of tune. Before discussions became so intellectual/world wide webbish, in the old days, dudes just played out of tune harmonicas - most likely without a lot of thought to it, as a lot of these guys were heart rather than head players.

sounds pretty cool

(btw, just for fun, Vicki unpacked a box of CD's and threw Oingo Boingo on - great stuff, haven't heard it in a while.)

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Philharpn@xxxxxxx
To: michaelrubinharmonica@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wed, Nov 25, 2009 1:15 pm
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] The beatings will continue untill tuning improves


HEAR

 Tate said a listener could hear the beats from the out of tune octaves.








In a message dated 11/25/09 11:11:12 AM, michaelrubinharmonica@xxxxxxxxx 
writes:


> Phil,
> What was Doug Tate's quote?  It seems like you left out an important
> verb "A listener could ? the beats"
> Michael
> 
> On 11/25/09, Philharpn@xxxxxxx <Philharpn@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Doug Tate remarked on the fact that a listener could (hear) the beats 
> resulting
> > from the out of tune octaves in Clarke's chromatic harmonica playing.
> >
> > I've listened to Clarke's playing and personally can't recall. But I'll 
> take
> > Doug's word for it. Doug was a virtuoso  listener, chromatic player and
> > musician. He was also an expert harmonica designer and tuner -- so he 
> would
> > know about those things.
> >
> > Some people claim that ragtime piano sounds better on an old 
> out-of-time,
> > worn out piano and others put thumbtacks on the hammers for that 
> rinky-tink
> > sound. Others prefer a well-tuned and well-adjusted piano.
> >
> > Some people think that harmonica players should "go for the feel" and 
> that
> > blues sounds better on a slightly out-of-tune chromatic because it has 
> more
> > character.
> >
> > The two camps are unlikely to ever agree.
> >
> > For what it's worth: I think Mike is right: old harps. And perhaps not
> > enough money to either replace the out-of-tune harps or pay a technician 
> to
> > properly tune them.
> >
> > Keep on harping
> > Phil
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 11/25/09 9:53:26 AM,
> > michaelrubinharmonica@xxxxxxxxx writes:
> >
> >
> > I think he just played old harps.
> > Michael Rubin
> > Michaelrubinharmonica.com
> >
> > On 11/25/09, Wendell Jenkins <bacon-fat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > I understand, when tuning a harmonica it's best to avoid beating of
> > octaves.
> > > But I really like the way William Clarke uses a beating effect in his
> > stuff.
> > > Is it the tuning,  or the technique,  bending one side of the octave ?
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