Re: [Harp-L] Can anyone point to a middle octave 1st position bluessolo without overblows?

["Rick Dempster" <rick.dempster@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I'd be interested to hear what you're talking about Michael. Keep me in mind if you find something.
Regards,
RD

>>> michael rubin <michaelrubinharmonica@xxxxxxxxx> 1/04/2009 1:39 >>>
I disagree, I think the blues has a much wider palette of acceptable
scales than simply the blues scale. Alos, blues is a feeling, not a
note choice.

I believe if the rhythm section is playing blues, the soloist can be
working the major pentatonic scale and it will fly.  I have seen
Primich do it, but did not record it so I cannot analyze what he did
right.  I am looking for great recordings of this seldom explored art
form.
Michael Rubin
Michaelrubinharmonica.com

On 3/30/09, Rick Dempster <rick.dempster@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> If you want it to sound like a blues, you need the appropriate scale. You can play something else, but nobody will identify it as 'blues'.
> RD
>
> >>> michael rubin <michaelrubinharmonica@xxxxxxxxx> 31/03/2009 15:06 >>>
> I haven't listened to what Mojo sent me, but I do not know if it is
> the end of story.  Can you not play interesting music during a blues
> song without a flat 3rd,5th or 7th?  I am searching for proof of very
> inventive playing, working magic out of a hat.
> Michael Rubin
> Michaelrubinharmonica.com
>
> On 3/30/09, Rick Dempster <rick.dempster@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Yeah I love Willie too; but this isn't what Michael was looking for. This is all top-octave stuff. You can't play a blues in the middle octave without overblows or half valving.
> > You can't get the all important flat third (Eb on a C harp, or OB hole four) and while you can get the flat seventh (Bb on a C) on draw 3 (technically in the first octave anyway) you have to overblow hole six to get it in the middle octave. End of story.
> > RD
> >
> > >>> Mojo Red <harplicks@xxxxxxxxx> 31/03/2009 12:45 >>>
> >
> > Michael,
> >
> > Check out Rhythm Willie kickin' the bejeezus out of this blues in 1st position on a Bb harp back in the 1940s. Song is called "Willie's Boogie."
> > http://www.patmissin.com/78rpm/WilliesBoogie.mp3 
> >
> >
> > Then there's Willie "Red" Newman doing this 1st inter3esting and creative (if not entirely elegant) 1st position version of St. Louis Blues where he crosses into the 2nd octave several times.
> > http://www.patmissin.com/78rpm/StLouisBlues.mp3 
> > Note the solo that begins about 1:15 into the song... definately middle octave.
> >
> > Overblows? We don't need no stinkin' overblows!
> >
> > Many thanks to Pat Missin for posting such great rare recordings on his Web site.
> >
> > Harpin' in Colorado,
> > --Ken M.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: michael rubin <michaelrubinharmonica@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx 
> > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 8:20:02 AM
> > Subject: [Harp-L] Can anyone point to a middle octave 1st position blues solo without overblows?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > MIchael Rubin
> > Michaelrubinharmonica.com
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