[Harp-L] Fw: Was American Chestnut combs, now stainless steel combs

[David Payne <dmatthew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I meant to add that you need to find the proper lubricant for drilling stainless. I have no idea what that is. 

Dave Payne 
Elk River Harmonicas
www.elkriverharmonicas.com


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From: David Payne <dmatthew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:48:31 AM
Subject: Was American Chestnut combs, now stainless steel combs


I wouldn't do it myself, even if it were my idea to make the comb. What I would do is talk to the gang at your friendly neighborhood machine shop, any of us fooling on the tech side of things should develop a relationship with the guys at the local, independent machine shop. My local shop, Parkersburg Tool, is very friendly. They think I'm a nut, which I am.
The deal is stainless steel is not the best stuff for drilling. FOr Vern, it's second-nature I'm sure and I'm sure it's now becoming second nature for Chris Reynolds as I think he's working with some steel now. I like Vern's idea of the tapped holes, if you are gonna do this, you ought to do it so you have the A NO. 1 comb in the end. 
I've drilled through steel quite a bit on grandpa's old drill press. Never anything as thick as a comb. You're gonna have to drill slow rpm and you'll have to use a lubricant. This does not mean motor oil. I use, in the Elk River Fortress of Harmonica Solitude, turbine oil.. cause it's what I have and the steel I drill through isn't that thick and it's not stainless, it's spring steel. 
One of the harmonica/machine shop greats has suggested titanium bits for this job and says, if you're lucky, your bit might last about four holes. After you've broken through, check the point of the bit to make sure you still have one.

Dave
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Dave Payne Sr. 
Elk River Harmonicas
www.elkriverharmonicas.com 






Vern says:

David Payne gave you the best idea.  For "good old-fashioned 
SS" there is the "good old fashioned twist drill and drill 
press."  Oil-emilsion coolant or oil keeps the bit cool 
while drilling.

Having an un-drilled metal comb gives you another option. 
Instead of using the long screws that reach through to the 
opposite reedplate or the opposite cover nut, you can tap 
(cut screw threads in) the holes and use short screws for 
both the reedplates and the covers.  I suggest a #50 tap 
drill and a 2-56 tap and screws.  All are available from 
McMaster Carr http://www.mcmaster.com/ The drill bit, tap, 
tap handle and SS screws will probably cost about $40. 
OR...any competent harmonica tech can do the work for you.

The advantage is that when you wish to work on the reeds to 
tune, gap, or replace them you can remove one cover and one 
reedplate without the opposite ones falling off.  Also, with 
steel screws and threads, you can really crank down on the 
screws without danger of stripping the threads. Admittedly, 
this advantage is more important on a chromatic harp than on 
a diatonic harp.

Because you have gone to a lot of cost and trouble to have 
the strongest and most stable comb, and you might wish to go 
"all the way" with tapped screw holes.

Vern