[Harp-L] Jazz Jam post, redone to be a little less confusing?
HOLY MOLY - this response sure came out on the "L" confusing as to who said
what:
Let me redo it and try to put brackets around the quotes.
<<<<<<In a message dated 6/3/2009 2:31:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
leone@xxxxxxxx writes:
On Jun 3, 2009, at 1:56 PM, IcemanLE@xxxxxxx wrote:
> It's normal for different people to have different memories of an
> event -
Especially if we are talking about DIFFERENT events...which we are.
>
> My memory of the Jazz Club contradicts Smo-Jo's.
No, they don't. Your recollections are about YOUR events, and mine
are about MINE. Take Denver 01. There were only 4 people who played
on that one. Randy, Rob, Mike (Turk) Mike (Polesky). I don't recall
anyone else taking a shot at it. And there were a lot of other good
players there. The lighting was Wrigley Field, the atmosphere was
conference hall, the acoustics were echoey.>>>>>>>>>>>
(Larry responds) oops, my mistake. I was referring to Golden Age, you were
referring to
Diamond Age. Sorry.
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-------------------------Joe sez:
<<<<<<<<<<<<You may be talking about 99. Unfortunately I wasn't there.
That's the
one that included Toots. I DO have an audio of the event.
I'm referring to 97, 98, and 99.
> Acoustics were good,volume was under control, lighting was tempered
> (Bob Williams wanted to give the
> flavor of a Jazz Club), attendees knew what was going on,
> attendance was
> good, multiple mics let three harmonica players on stage at the
> same time,
> which lead to a lot of interesting interplay,
That's the way it SHOULD be.
> and Randy had a solid handle on controlling some of the egos. It
> did run concurrent with other events,
> but the idea was to have a World Class experience in which it was
> impossible
> to attend everything and there was a lot to choose from. Beginners
> were
> intimidated, as it was a much more professional situation.
> However, it gave
> those with experience a chance to really play with excellent acoustic
> musicians.
>
> At the time, SPAH was moving in a different direction than Buckeye,
> which
> was more geared towards the beginner.
Let's talk about that statement. So, what's wrong with gearing an
event that caters to the 'bread & butter' (so to speak) of the
harmonica brother/sisterhood?
. The 82.5 % who MAKE spah, Buckeye, GSHC, VHC, et al. can actually
GET something useable out of spah, and to whom spah SHOULD represent.
Look, there are 82.5 % of attendees and their spouses or other
significants, who are average blokes. THEN there are 8.75% whom are
good enough to do the shows. That leaves 8.75% who are in limbo. Not
quite good enough to do a show slot, but also a little too high up
the food chain to sit there and listen to players and seminar
instructors who aren't any better than they are.
> The idea was that, between the two
> events.
> both beginner and more advanced players would find exactly what they
> needed.
What you're saying is elitist. It smacks of "Hey, if you're a
beginner, go to Buckeye, we're not interested, but if you're
advanced, come to spah".>>>>>>>
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Larry responds:
(koff), uh, interpretation may be in the mind of the reader. We wanted
SPAH
to be a different experience than Buckeye. SPAH was headed into a more
professional direction than Buckeye, which was more user friendly. Nothing
wrong with that. To say ""Hey, if you're a beginner, go to Buckeye, we're
not
interested, but if you're advanced, come to spah" sounds to my ears like a
bit of "spin doctoring" harkening back to the ol' Tate/Iceman exchanges.
In
all fairness, I used to be a lot more of an a**hole back then. The problem
with having an "a**holectamy" is that people tend to hold onto the old
image longer than is necessary. (I dug my own pit. I accept the
responsibility
and am not angered by responses like this - more amused than anything
else).
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Joe sez:
<<<<<<<<<Ok, so the fact that I played Buckeye 03,
05, 07, (and other years) makes me a beginner>>>>>>>>>
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Larry responds:.
See, another example of spin doctoring, throwing a negative curve on a
posting that never stated that those that play at Buckeye are beginners.
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<<<<<<Now I understand. I'm
one of the 8.75% in limbo.
>
> Randy was instrumental in creating the Jazz Club
And I GAVE him the credit. Now I can't say anything about Bob as I
had no interaction with him, but on several occasions, I made
suggestions to the rest of the establishment (Mitchell, Dobson,
Harris, etc), and it fell on deaf ears. Ya know why? No respect>>>>>>
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Larry responds:.
Still harboring feelings of resentment, perhaps?
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<<<<<<<<<<> and we were behind his
> ideas to bring in the professional musicians and PA, piano, etc.
> Perhaps Randy
> has his own recollection of the Jazz Club to offer.
>
> Lame it was not, in my opinion.
My use of the word lame was in reference to DENVER 01 and Denver
06.>>>>>>>>
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Larry responds:
Once again, my mistake. Sorry. Thought you were talking pre Tate
conventions.
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> So, we leave the "viewer to determine which, if any, is the truth."
Doesn't scare me at all..................smo-joe Sosa>>>>>>
OK, Fearless Joe. You're the Man! :>)
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