[Harp-L] RE:butterfields last album

marcos coll <marcos_coll@xxxxxxxxxxx> · Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:32:25 +0000

Hey Anthony as i told you by private email,the spanish saying with the word ignorance was not calling YOU ignorant......so i dont have to explain it for the rest......

And as i also told you in the email,even if Butters its one of  my favourite players ,that dont mean   if he does a bad album i have to like it ..... im not an extremist.But as i told you its the only record of him that i dont like .the others ,most of them are pure art!

As i said im my first post i could be days talking about Butters,and its already been a week full of posts from everywhere in Harp-l!

So,as you see he was BIG!I wish someday i could play wrong and sloppy,and not choosing the right notes  like him.......

Have a nice wekend

los reyes del KO
marcos coll 
reichenbergerstr. 59
10999 berlin
phone: oo49 30 61076946
mobil:  0049 1635256950
www.losreyesdelko.com
www.myspace.com/reyesdelko

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> 1. RE: This ever happen to travelling harp players? (Tom Klingl)
> 2. Traveling (SONNYTONE@xxxxxxx)
> 3. Re: Ricci mot blues? Who cares? (Tom Albanese)
> 4. Re: Roll Call for Sacramento... (Buzz Krantz)
> 5. RE: Women Harp/Vocalists (Barry F. Cohen)
> 6. Re: Jason Ricci Revue from Orlando Blues Society - OBBS
> (harmoniman@xxxxxxxxxxx)
> 7. Re: RE: butterfields last album (Rob Paparozzi)
> 8. Re: Roll Call for Sacramento... (Bob Loomis)
> 9. RE: RE: butterfields last album (Anthony Smith)
> 10. Re: Re: JASON RICCI CONCERT - (Joe and Cass Leone)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:24:44 +0200
> From: "Tom Klingl" <tom.klingl@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: [Harp-L] This ever happen to travelling harp players?
> To: "'Splash'" <celtiac@xxxxxxxxx>, <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <889D7A4948EB43F492D7879402F84EF8@eddy3>
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> 
> Without being affiliated with this company I think it
> could have been avoided if he had a Voyage Air guitar
> http://www.voyageairguitar.com/ but they are not cheap
> 
> Tom
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Splash [mailto:celtiac@xxxxxxxxx] 
> > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 2:44 AM
> > To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [Harp-L] This ever happen to travelling harp players?
> > 
> > 
> > I hear there a brand new thing out.
> > 
> > It's called a flight case! Doh!
> > 
> > http://www.rockhardcases.com/uploads/images/hardcover.jpg
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > PEACE
> > Splash
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <venkyr@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 7:10 PM
> > Subject: [Harp-L] This ever happen to travelling harp players?
> > 
> > 
> > > We saw this guy on Fox & Friends this morning. 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo
> > > 
> > > www.myspace.com/harpdad 
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:46:51 EDT
> From: SONNYTONE@xxxxxxx
> Subject: [Harp-L] Traveling
> To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
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> 
> The exact reason Charlie does not travel with a Cruncher on board a flight 
> is that he simply just wants to get off the plane, get to his hotel, go to 
> the club and play. Anything else about how he could check it safely is not 
> based on the reality of Charlie's situation. When I posted about the weight 
> and everything else, it was before this new experience and was only acting 
> on impulse, which I continue to work on, even after the change. I am 
> currently building him a head only which he can carry on the plane and fit in 
> the overhead compartment, as he prefers to be able to use a Sonny Jr. built 
> amplifier wherever he goes. It has just taken me some time to make sure I 
> build him something that will be as consistent as his Cruncher, which he will 
> tell you, is his Buddy, his partner. Charlie is in his upper 60's, and has 
> earned the right to do what he is most comfortable with. This is exactly 
> what I did for Kim Wilson with his custom single 12' speaker Sonny Jr 1, in 
> 1996, which he still uses in the studio or when he chooses. I obtained the 
> overhead specifications for the airlines, just as I did with Charlie's, and 
> made sure what I designed fit comfortably. 
> My endorsement agreements with each of my endorsers is between myself 
> and the endorser, neither myself or any other amp builder does anything 
> differently. If they need for some reason to fly to one gig and use whatever 
> is available, then so be it. Having this head only should resolve any issues 
> of Charlie needing to have to play with an amp he was familiar with in the 
> past. Kim Wilson is a prime example of someone who will most definitely 
> use his endorsed amp whenever he can, however flies so frequently he uses 
> whatever they supply him for that particular gig. I am in no way, shape or 
> form trying to be offensive to any other builder, as I am clearly stating, as 
> with my endorsers, they use their amp whenever it is humanly possible. But 
> being a full time musician, unless you have actually done it, is hard enough 
> on its own to have to worry about flying with an amp that is checked. 
> The ones that do play mostly, or all the time with their product, 
> travel by road, have their schedule laid out so they can do so, which gives 
> them the ability to take their amp with them. To fly from gig to gig, make 
> sure everything that is involved with putting this all together, is hard work. 
> I saw it first hand while following the strict itinerary of Sonny's, 
> created by the APA agency, then Emma, Sonny's widow, would create with all the 
> details. And Sonny did not even use an amplifier, he just used whatever mic 
> was put in front of him. 
> I do not post on any other sites, I have a full life which entails 
> focusing on my loved ones, and the countless wonderful people, supporters, 
> and truly sincerely individuals who's positive feedback keeps me going. I try 
> to learn from my past and my mistakes, so anything personal will never be 
> a public issue, as I have accepted that we All have this terminal disease 
> called life, and should use every second to create something positive; no 
> matter if it is holding a door for an elderly or disabled person, or just 
> smiling at people and saying hello. The ripple effect of such actions is a 
> wonderful thing, I had to learn the hard way of the opposite effects, but at 
> least am constantly working on being a better person. Hopefully this will 
> clear up a clouded issue. This is the last of this I will post here or 
> anywhere else. Gary
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:31:44 -0500
> From: Tom Albanese <reedwrecker@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Ricci mot blues? Who cares?
> To: John Frazer <harmonicajohns@xxxxxxx>, harp-l <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> 
> Not blues-L maybe, but it sure seems to be morphing into Ricci-L. I think
> Jason is great too but this is getting to be a bit over the top. Let's not
> embarrass the guy.
> 
> t.a.
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 10:13 AM, John Frazer <harmonicajohns@xxxxxxx>wrote:
> 
> > This is harp-l NOT BLUES-L
> >
> > Jason plays the f..k out of the harp. Blues purist may not like it, but so
> > what?
> >
> > Hard to watch him, but he plays great harp.
> >
> > My $.02
> >
> > hj
> >
> > "Watch out! He has some sort of a fantastic instrument that lets out a
> > death
> > sound!"
> >
> > Harmonica John Frazer
> >
> > 619-263-6826
> > Cel 619-709-2217
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYKuQ0vbfqU
> >
> >
> > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Harmonica-John/51191253385#/pages/Harmonica-Jo
> > hn/51191253385
> >
> >
> >
> > On 7/10/09 6:33 AM, "harp-l-request@xxxxxxxxxx" <harp-l-request@xxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Jason Riccis persona is all Punk and his performance pretty much was in
> > > that style. There were lots of young people there to enjoy it, more
> > than
> > > show up at some solid blues shows.
> > > Jason, as well as he plays and as good as he is (and he is indeed
> > extremely
> > > good) isnt playing the kind of harmonica that I would call blues.
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:32:41 -0500
> From: Buzz Krantz <buzzo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Roll Call for Sacramento...
> To: Greg Heumann <greg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <4A576D29.9010409@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> I'll be there to give you permission. I'll even have a drink with you. 
> By the way your buyen...
> buizz.............................
> 
> Greg Heumann wrote:
> > So, PT
> >
> > So you're saying I need to obtain your written permission by Thursday 
> > in order to drink on Friday as you won't be present on Friday to 
> > extend said permission?
> >
> > OK. No problem.
> >
> > Just wanted to be clear.
> >
> >
> > /Greg
> >
> > http://www.blowsmeaway.com
> > http://www.bluestateband.net
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: PT Gazell <pt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Date: July 9, 2009 4:43:34 PM PDT
> >> To: Warren Bee <spahpublicity@xxxxxxxxx>, harp-l <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Roll Call for Sacramento...
> >>
> >>
> >> I will be there for Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday....I don't want any
> >> drinking going on Friday & Saturday by the rest of you without my adult
> >> supervision. See you there...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:36:02 -0400
> From: "Barry F. Cohen" <kates-cohen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Harp-L] RE: Women Harp/Vocalists
> To: <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <2757A294C5E0423CBF7FEC28118A6A2C@BCLaptop>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
> 
> "My vote: Annie Raines, a great harp player AND a great vocalist."
> 
> I'm lucky enough to have Annie as my occasional harp teacher and fulltime friend! I'm thrilled that Robert mentioned her because there are few to none better! She'll simply blow you away with her harp (Big Walter in a little package) and her sweet melodic and powerful when need-be voice (although husband Paul Rishell does most the singing) and more importantly, she's about the nicest person you'll ever meet! Even with her hectic schedule she makes time for everyone and has recently formed a harp club in Boston dubbed 'B-HIP' (Boston Harmonica Innovation Project) - we've already had our first harp-centric open mic jam - led by Annie (w/ special guest BBQ Bob!) - and she is 'giving-back' to the Boston harmonica community (and other communities) like crazy! 
> 
> When I first started out a few years ago; I asked her if a white, jewish boy from a middle-class upbringing could ever learn to play the blues; and she simply pointed at herself - reminding me her maiden name was Cohen - and that she was certainly Anglo - and had the blues from her nose to her toes! So much for the white vs. black harp-player argument!! 
> 
> What a great week on Harp-L; first Butterfield and now female harp/singers....is anyone getting any work done this week?! 
> 
> Barry C. 
> 
> Blues with a feeling, that's what I've got today! 
> 
> 
> http://www.myspace.com/gracieblues
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:37:39 +0000 (UTC)
> From: harmoniman@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Jason Ricci Revue from Orlando Blues Society -
> OBBS
> To: Harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> He play the hell out of the blues at a recent Bucks County Blues Society ( the oldestÂ  continually running blues society, fyi)Â show I attended. I didn't see any old blues stalwarts walk out on this one. Even the hard core, pool playin'Â bikers stuck around.Â He also played the hell out of 
> 
> funk,rock, eastern, keyboard harp, and any thing else his bas ass wanted to do. I like Jasons approach to harp. It is refreshing to hear something new and not some living Karaoke machine that can play all of the great bluesmens songs note for note. If they did that Blues harp would be more obscure than it is now. Peace2,Â JB http://www.myspace.com/jimbudnickijbreed http://www.bucksbluessociety.com/ 
> 
> 
> 
> ---- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Splash" <celtiac@xxxxxxxxx> 
> To: "harp-l" <Harp-L@xxxxxxxxxx> 
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:30:14 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Jason Ricci Revue from Orlando Blues Society - OBBS 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> Jason Ricci Revue from Orlando Blues Society - OBBS 
> >He plays a blues set list when he plays BLUES EVENTS. Was this a blues 
> event? I doubt it. 
> 
> 
> 
> Â Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â When JRNB played Blue Tuesday at Boston's on the Beach, a show 
> that was hosted by Frank Ward of the Knucklebusters Blues Band, they did 
> mostly blues and blues oriented stuff. Â Also in attendance was the winner of 
> the 2009 IBC JP Soars, who sat in for several numbers. Â That was a blues 
> show! Â Also Jason did not disappoint his fans who always expect something a 
> little "out there." 
> --- 
> >Nope, it ain't your grandad's Blues...... 
> 
> >...and if that's all that the Blues is allowed to be, Next year it will 
> befour members, then three, then...... 
> 
> 
> 
> Â Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â Just looking at the appearance of Jason and the gang, you just 
> have to know that there's a new posse in town. Â Ain't no grey-haired ODBGs 
> here! 
> --- 
> > IMITATE then Â ASSIMILATE and finally INNOVATE 
> > 
> > Jason's fans like the fact that he has reached and is working on the 
> latter ... 
> 
> 
> 
> Â Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â I have to wonder if any "Blues Society" members walked out of 
> the show muttering to themselves. Â Not surprising that they liked RJ, who 
> can play ODBGs "note for note." 
> --- 
> >anyone know what show this refers to? or what they did play? 
> 
> 
> 
> Â Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â July 8, 8pm show at the Plaza Theater 425 N. Bumby, Orlando, FL 
> --- 
> >> He certainly could play the hell out of that...if he wanted Â to. 
> 
> >well, yeah. Â he can and does. Â just not all the time. Â deal with it. 
> 
> 
> 
> Â Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â It sounds like the reviewer was expecting to see a 21-year-old 
> Jason who won the "Sonny Boy Blues Society contest, performed at The King 
> Biscuit Blues Festival, LIVED and played with Big Bad Smitty, David 
> Kimbrough, and RL Burnside..." 
> Â Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â He obviously failed to read the JRNB band bio from their current 
> website. Â No wonder he was expecting something else. 
> Â Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â "Blues, Rock, Funk, Jazz Fusion, Eastern, Punk, Carnival, 
> Psychedelic, Performance Art and more are all regularly attached 
> descriptions of the band Jason Ricci and New Blood. Defying category, 
> without defying the techniques, authenticity and disciplines of any one of 
> those category is a rare and dangerous high wire act this band has been 
> balancing expertly year after year, award after award, show after show, fan 
> after fan and album after album." 
> 
> Quotes from JRNB website: http://www.jasonricci.com/epk/ 
> 
> Â Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  Â Jason is still growing. Â But not growing "up." 
> --- 
> 
> One more comment... Â I wonder what he would say after seeing one of the 
> great OLiveBGs Taj Mahal these days. Â Taj is touring with Bonnie Raitt, but 
> hasn't stopped expanding his music to encompass more diverse styles from any 
> and all genre's, constantly growing, not like some old rock and rollers. 
> example: Chuck Berry who does the same songs the same way at every show and 
> has been doing same-O same-O for decades. Â My suggestion: Go to Chuck's 
> show. Â You will know what to expect and will not be disappointed. 
> 
> If you like surprises and want to see something new and cutting edge by a 
> band of four individual virtuosi, well...... 
> 
> PEACE 
> Splash 
> 
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:47:51 -0400
> From: "Rob Paparozzi" <Chromboy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] RE: butterfields last album
> To: "Anthony Smith" <anthony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'marcos coll'"
> <marcos_coll@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "'harp forum'" <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <7FE72A0C59554049968FD58CC8FC3803@Bedroompc>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
> 
> > then many agree shortly after much of his stuff was horrible. Go 
> > figure....
> 
> Anthony, actually I think MORE people said they liked MOST of his work, it 
> was just the last few years of his life that his studio LP's like "Rides 
> Again" were pretty bad. "North-South" wasn't great but had a few decent 
> moments on it.
> 
> 
> This is NOT most of his work and nobody was bashing you, we just wanted some 
> examples, if you had used these two we could have all agreed and saved a lot 
> of bandwidth! ,-)
> 
> So ends a great week of "Butter" debates!
> Peace,
> rob paparozzi
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Anthony Smith" <anthony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'marcos coll'" <marcos_coll@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "'harp forum'" 
> <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:53 AM
> Subject: RE: [Harp-L] RE: butterfields last album
> 
> 
> > Damn is right! You've got to be kidding me. A number of folks on this 
> > site
> > bashed me for stating much of what I heard from Butterfield was horrible 
> > and
> 
> >
> > I need to reference a Spanish/English dictionary to determine the proper 
> > use
> > of the word ignorant in Spanish.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: harp-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:harp-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On 
> > Behalf
> > Of marcos coll
> > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:21 AM
> > To: harp forum
> > Subject: [Harp-L] RE: butterfields last album
> >
> >
> > Yeah......as i said im a die hard fun of Butters,but this
> > one........................damn!!!!!!!!!!!For my taste is so bad that is
> > even funny!!!!!Anyway,his LIVE album or better days could make u forget if
> > he had 100 like the "rides again" one.........
> >
> > And the cover......ha ha ha!
> >
> > los reyes del KO
> > marcos coll
> > reichenbergerstr. 59
> > 10999 berlin
> > phone: oo49 30 61076946
> > mobil: 0049 1635256950
> > www.losreyesdelko.com
> > www.myspace.com/reyesdelko
> >
> >
> >
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:56:22 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Bob Loomis <miltloomis@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Harp-L] Re: Roll Call for Sacramento...
> To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <84248.5106.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> I live just 90 minutes from Sacramento and have friends who live about 40 minutes away with whom I'd planned to stay and attend much of SPAH, but as I've written before, life intervened. I have to go to Oregon for a memorial service for a family member who died in February. So I'll heading north on the Wednesday of SPAH and won't be back till Monday or Tuesday the following week. 
> 
> I hope to make it up just to hang out on Monday or Tuesday, but may end up just going to the Jazz Summit in Santa Cruz. Or I may js flake out because of trip preps, etc. My apologies to all and my deep regrets for having to forgo the first SPAH convention in my memory within relatively easy reach of where I live. Have fun, all! I know many members of the SF Bay Harpers group will be attending so they'll represent me!
> 
> Bob Loomis
> Concord CA USA
> ---
> 
> Warren Bee wrote: Now that we are only a month away I think it would be nice to see who here on "the L" has decided to take the trip out west for some California harpin'
> fun.(snip)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:00:04 -0400
> From: "Anthony Smith" <anthony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: [Harp-L] RE: butterfields last album
> To: "'Rob Paparozzi'" <Chromboy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'marcos coll'"
> <marcos_coll@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "'harp forum'" <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <00fa01ca017f$defc46f0$9cf4d4d0$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> ...we just wanted some examples, if you had used these two we could have all
> agreed and saved a lot of bandwidth! ,-)
> 
> Roger that! But I did find some common ground with the folks that did get
> touched by his music as I did find a few good examples of the man's work.
> 
> T.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: harp-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:harp-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Rob Paparozzi
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 12:48 PM
> To: Anthony Smith; 'marcos coll'; 'harp forum'
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] RE: butterfields last album
> 
> > then many agree shortly after much of his stuff was horrible. Go 
> > figure....
> 
> Anthony, actually I think MORE people said they liked MOST of his work, it
> was just the last few years of his life that his studio LP's like "Rides
> Again" were pretty bad. "North-South" wasn't great but had a few decent
> moments on it.
> 
> 
> This is NOT most of his work and nobody was bashing you, we just wanted some
> examples, if you had used these two we could have all agreed and saved a lot
> of bandwidth! ,-)
> 
> So ends a great week of "Butter" debates!
> Peace,
> rob paparozzi
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anthony Smith" <anthony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'marcos coll'" <marcos_coll@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "'harp forum'" 
> <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:53 AM
> Subject: RE: [Harp-L] RE: butterfields last album
> 
> 
> > Damn is right! You've got to be kidding me. A number of folks on this 
> > site
> > bashed me for stating much of what I heard from Butterfield was horrible 
> > and
> 
> >
> > I need to reference a Spanish/English dictionary to determine the proper 
> > use
> > of the word ignorant in Spanish.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:01:59 -0400
> From: Joe and Cass Leone <leone@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Re: JASON RICCI CONCERT -
> To: icemanle@xxxxxxx
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> On Jul 10, 2009, at 12:23 PM, icemanle@xxxxxxx wrote:
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> > SMOJOSOJE sez:
> >
> > I take it (by your own wording) that if you are not enamored with 
> > Jason, and if you state as such, you are brave. And if you defend? 
> > Then what? .... evarb?
> >
> > Don't try to read too deeply between the words and come to 
> > conclusions based on your filters -
> 
> I will be the first to admit that I don't have complete control of 
> the Queen's English, but I read the post and the meaning was obvious. 
> Now I don't want you to think I'm some radical one way or t'other. I 
> read the posts and DON'T assume. I welcome any and all opinions, and 
> I have never ever even tried to bend anyone to my way of thinking. 
> It's only my opinion after all. As far as posting the article, I 
> don't have a problem with it either. I'm not too thin skinned.
> >
> > I think Jason is great. Love his commitment, passion, and the road 
> > he braved to get where he is today (personally and professionally). 
> > His full frontal attack style of original music doesn't do it for 
> > me. I don't like it.
> 
> I respect that. And as I said, it's a matter of taste. I had left 
> home 3 months before I was even 18 and as such have gone it alone 
> these last 50 years. When you have relied on yourself for such a long 
> time, you develop priorities. Food, rent, junk car, insurance. You 
> get the idea. So you don't have much disposable income. When you DO 
> buy something, it has to be par value for what you are spending, as 
> spending would be a hardship.
> 
> Had Jason been around at the time, I could have reached in my pocket, 
> because (for me..remember only my opinion), the kid bats 1000. I have 
> a STRICT 67 percentile rule. If I buy an album, it HAS to have 8 out 
> of 12 GOOD sides. And I would prefer 5 that I REALLY like. (Even 
> Stevie can't accomplish this all the time.) Jason can, Randy Singer can.
> >
> > What I applauded was the brave posters (I believe they may have 
> > even been lurkers until speaking their mind - but, I'd have to 
> > check on that before claiming it as gospel) who found the courage 
> > to state that they weren't a fan of "gushing" posts and perhaps 
> > Jason's music didn't appeal to them.
> 
> I did the same thing on the Butter thread. Was 'I' brave? There are a 
> lot of died in the wool fanatic Butter fans. But he never reached the 
> 67 percentile with me, so I never went back for more. Toots can do 
> it, Rice Miller can, Little Walter (batting 333 didn't).
> 
> > You may notice that some artists have such a fanatical fan base 
> > that these fans will aggressively attack anyone that doesn't share 
> > their fervor.
> 
> T E L L me about it. And I don't understand it. I also don't 
> understand people's incessant attacking some artists either. (like 
> the famous J. Popper threads). Why can't people just live and let 
> live? I (for instance), don't care for the Chicago sound. And I 
> REALLY don't care for the California/Chicago sound. I happen to 
> prefer the Delta sound. I don't see much on that subject. The Chicago 
> & California sounds dominate. Do I make a fuss? No, it''s all you're 
> DIMES.
> 
> Many years ago, I walked into a record store in New Or and what 
> caught my eye was a purple album with a picture of a black 11? year 
> old girl in 'buffies'. She had a sad look on her face and a tear 
> running down her cheek. The album was delta blues and had various 
> artists on the 12 or so sides. Over time I bought several more in the 
> same series. Over time I got to SEE some of these people too. THAT's 
> what hooked me.
> 
> So, do I go pushing my tastes on others? Hell no. Every spah I have 
> gone to over the last 19 years has had O N E person who attracted my 
> attention. I'm hard to reach.
> 
> > Sometimes this is even to the embarrassment of said artist. I've 
> > seen it on the "L" many times. I dare say that it keeps a few of 
> > the more timid lurkers from expressing their own opinions - pity.
> 
> Well, I sure as he!! am not one of the people who intimidates. But I 
> can understand where you're coming from. Some people need punched in 
> the face really hard by a guy holding a roll of quarters lololol
> >
> > The internet is the great playing field leveler where anyone can 
> > join in. Unfortunately, some presumptuous experts and some 
> > fanatical fans make it miserable for "commoners" to join in by 
> > attacking their opinions or insisting that, for validity, the game 
> > must be played according to someone's rules - pity.
> 
> I understand where you're coming from, but sometimes it's a two way 
> street too. One man's pita is another man's tortilla.
> 
> smo-joe
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