Re: [Harp-L] RE: Im tired of amps



Thanks man!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Hunter" <turtlehill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Dan Berger" <dberger1@xxxxxxxxxx>; <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <marcos_coll@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] RE: Im tired of amps



Dan,

You could do that. Some amp modelers also have a bypass built in, so in that case you'd hit the bypass and go straight through to the PA without effects. That would save you from having to plug and unplug the mic every time you went from acoustic to affected.

Regards, Richard Hunter
latest mp3s and harmonica blog at http://myspace.com/richardhunterharp



-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Berger <dberger1@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sep 28, 2008 11:01 AM
To: Richard Hunter <turtlehill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Cc: marcos_coll@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] RE: Im tired of amps

Richard,
I am totally ignorant of these things, but very interested.

If I'm playing at an acoustic jam that suddenlt turns electric, do I plug
into an amp modeler and send it directly to the PA and sound amplified?

Thanks,

Dan
----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Hunter" <turtlehill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <marcos_coll@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] RE: Im tired of amps



marcos coll wrote:
<Excuse my ignorance,but what is the RP200--???
<I dont know too much about amp stuff,but what you say about this thing
sound perfect
<for me!!!!!
<If you could tell me a little about it(or a web site where i can see
something),and
<also how much it cost and where i can get it,you'll make me very happy!

The Digitech RP200 is an "amp modeler", a piece of hardware driven by a
computer chip that is programmed to emulate various amplifiers and
effects. Other examples of amp modelers include the Line6 POD (in its
various forms), the Zoom G-series (G1, G2, etc.) the Behringer V-AMP and
V-AMP2, and the newer Digitech RP150, 250, and 350, as well as
single-purpose devices from Boss that emulate a Fender Bassman and Fender
Deluxe Reverb respectively. All of these devices do a good job of
re-creating the sound of an amp (or multiple amps--the Digitech RP200
contains 11 amp models, about half of which work well with harp).


I started using the Digitech RP200 about 6-7 years ago, and at this point
I'm pretty familiar with it. Other members of Harp-L use a POD, the
Behringer, one of the Zoom devices, or one of the newer Digitech models.
I've also tried the Zoom G1 and the Boss Fender Bassman pedal. In my
opinion, they all sound very good. The most important thing is to pick
one and learn to use it, because it takes time to learn how to use it
effectively. (The second most important thing is to pick a mic--any
mic--and stick with it, because like a real amp, the pedals interact
differently with different mics, and if you change mics frequently you
have to spend a LOT of time programming. I use the Audix Fireball V now.)
Every "patch" (sound design) for one of these things represents an amp
model, compression and EQ settings, a speaker cabinet model, effects
settings, and delay and reverb settings, so a single patch is like setting
up an amp plus half a dozen effect devices. I spent over 50 !
hours developing a full set of 40 patches for the RP200.


The main advantage of the RP200 (compared to a POD or some other brand) to
a novice is that I sell a full set of 40 harp-ready patches for the RP200
(optimized for the Audix Fireball V) for a price of $20, which saves you a
lot of time getting the thing ready for performance. A number of Harp-L
members bought that set, and just about all of them are very happy with it
(at least if my mail is any indication). If you're willing to put your
own time in, you can certainly create a set of great sounds for yourself
with any of the devices named above. I offer some pointers on programming
amp modelers, as well as samples recorded using the RP200, at my website
at http://hunterharp.com/effectset.html.


The RP200 has been discontinued, but there are plenty of them around in
good condition. (For some reason, the device was marketed mainly to
novice guitarists, and novices frequently quit.) At any given time you
can find a dozen RP200s for sale on eBay at prices ranging from $70-$90
depending on condition. Daddy's Junky Music (http://daddys.com), a
reputable dealer, also sells them for similar prices, in their case with a
money-back warranty--don't remember whether it's 15 or 30 days, but either
way it's a little bit of extra insurance for the purchase, and in my
opinion worth it. At $70 apiece, it's probably a good idea to buy a spare
if you decide you like the thing. I've bought two used to back up my
primary, and I've never had a major problem with any of them. (I've
dedicated one for my electric piano, and I keep the other for general
backup.) I did have to do a mechanical adjustment on the footpedal on one
of them (loosening the nut that holds it together), and I'v!
e had to re-calibrate the footpedal on a few occasions, but that's a
standard maintenance procedure that's described in the manual, and it only
takes a minute, with no tools involved. Otherwise, no problems.


Digitech's web site (digitech.com) has more info, manuals, etc. for the
stuff they make. For more info on amp modelers in general, check out the
websites of the various manufacturers described above.


As always, whenever you're thinking of buying a piece of gear, check the
user reviews on harmonycentral.com first.  If there's a general problem
with any piece of gear, you're going to see it there.

Regards, Richard Hunter
latest mp3s and harmonica blog at http://myspace.com/richardhunterharp



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