Re: [Harp-L] Unsubscribed or Harp Sabbatical?



Hey, What about Bob Dylan?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe and Cass Leone" <leone@xxxxxxxx>
To: <Philharpn@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Unsubscribed or Harp Sabbatical?




On Oct 18, 2008, at 11:48 AM, Philharpn@xxxxxxx wrote:



In a message dated 10/18/08 9:12:37 AM, harmonika13@xxxxxxxxx writes:



Just wondering, is everyone just busy wood-shedding on their harps and too
busy to post or did I get unsubscribed?



Based on my (now long) experience on the Harp List and guitar and piano
lists, the typical pattern is for someone to start a new topic such as (1) What
kind of hat to wear to a gig (2) how to "break-in" a new harp (3) do comb
materials affect the sound (4) what are the harp positions and the discussion is off
and running. Sometimes new data is added, but mostly it is the same old
arguments. And they go on forever and ever and ever and ever and ever. And then
without resolve, they die.


I was not present at the founding of Harp List, but I've been around several
years. So have others. The group is not constant; new people are dropping in
and out all the time. Every time a group of new people arrive, they have their
own questions (many of which have been answered before). Which is not to say
their questions have no value but that the answers are available in the
archives -- and they are frequently directed there.


Nowadays the <http://harp-l.org/mailman/listinfo/harp-l> at the
bottom of each Harp-L post directs anyone to the Harp List Home Page
(archives are just a click away). That makes it easier than ever to look up stuff.


Like all military barracks (remember them?) and college dorm room discussions
(BS sessions) these things (arguably) go on forever and never come to a
conclusion. Except in the rare case of the harp positions: after much meandering
debate it was pointed out the modern convention for harp positions is to use the
Circle of Fifths. Few other topics were so easily concluded.


I think the great Doug Tate pointed out the cyclical nature of news group
lists.

Actually it was me. I feel that there are only so many finite subjects, and therefore keep getting re-cycled. Things like (but certainly not limited TO:)
Story #2... How did Little Walter get "THAT" tone out of the #5-7 draw?
#6... What's better..a Fender tweed or a (insert favorite)
#23.. Will adding silver to reeds give you that 'silvery' tone
#77.. John Popper. Flash in the pan?...or what?
#262. 100 versions of Whammer Jammer
I think you get the picture.


Periodically, Harp List goes through the same topics for a second or third
time around.

Try a dozen :)


Witness the comb materials discussion recently, or how come
Brand (insert name) makes such crappy harps (combs)? Why can't they make them like
they used to? Why were pre-World War II harps so great?


Most of these topics have no final answers, only more questions. And the fact
that there are no final answers prompts another round of argument about the
reasons for that.


One of the most fun things is watching those lacking any sense of irony or
perspective immediately assuming ANY comment or discussion about their revered
(1) harp hero (2) harp pioneer (3) favorite player must be constructed as an
attack and therefore viciously defended.


Harp List was started in 1992 and has had time for two sabbaticals: they
occur every 7 years in the U.S. university system allowing the profs a year for
rest & relaxation and further study.
So it may be sabbatical time for some.

Harp-l has been around 16 years, and I have been here about 8 (a relative newbie,.. chortle). I have seen at least a half dozen cycles on some subjects and a couple dozen on others.

Now if you remember things differently, good for you. Offer your own take.
But keep in mind I'm offering a fair and balanced account of what has happened
-- losely based on my nearly 40 years in journalism. I'm not taking sides for or against, I'm just trying to state what has happened. Don't assume I am
being pejorative because I recount the above chronology. I take the Doug Tate
perspective: Let 'em all talk and see what they have to say.

You are 100% correct Phil.

Cheers!


Keep on harpin

Phil Lloyd





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