Re: [Harp-L] Trio Polifonic Harmonica Trio
- To: "Rick Dempster" <rick.dempster@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Trio Polifonic Harmonica Trio
- From: "G. E. Popenoe" <gpopenoe@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:40:13 -0700
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Valid point. I only play C chromatic so get kind of stuck in the thinking
that other instrumentalists use.
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Rick Dempster <rick.dempster@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> Ah but I did mean 'position'. To say what mode he was playing in would
> explain the musical aspect, independent of what instrument was being used.
> You could play any mode in any key on any chromatic harp, but the breathing
> patterns (which is what interested me) would be different.
> What I wanted to know was: 'What key and on what particular keyed harmonica
> is he playing?'. That translates to 'position', as far as I can see.
> RD
>
> >>> "G. E. Popenoe" <gpopenoe@xxxxxxxxx> 30/04/2008 15:50 >>>
> Sounds like it is 6/8 or 12/8 time. Something in threes for sure.
>
> When playing chromatic, I don't know if "position" is the best word to
> use as mentioned earlier in the thread. "Mode" as in "minor mode"
> might be a little more appropriate term even if you change modes by
> playing a scale starting from a different "position"....
>
> Oh hell, use "position" of you want with harp players. With anyone
> else you might want to use "mode."
>
>
>
> Gary Popenoe
>
> On Apr 29, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Ken Deifik <kenneth.d@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Rick wrote:
> >> That's wonderful! I'll have to wait till I'm at home to work out
> >> what key/position he's in. That's really fluid and rhythmic
> >> simultaneously. Is that a known melody they are playing? I'm
> >> assuming it falls into the Klezmer bag, no?
> >
> > It doesn't sound very much like any Klezmer I've ever heard. If we
> > were all specialists in eastern European music I'm sure we'd hear
> > some connection. Since it's a Romanian group, perhaps it's some
> > form of Romainian folk music or dance music.
> >
> > The famous Klezmer song is "Romania Romania" but the Klezmer cats I
> > know make fun of the old people that request it. It's the "When the
> > Saint's Go Marching In" of Klezmer -- the one Klezmer song the
> > civilians know. And that song sounds nothing like this wonderful
> > harmonica band.
> >
> > However, Klezmer is absolutely expected to grow and change, so maybe
> > this is what it sounds like in Romanian now.
> >
> > Before he actually became a Klezmer musician himself, Andy Statman
> > studied with a bunch of Eastern European music masters who were all
> > living in dire poverty in NYC. Communism was still the law of the
> > land in their countries, and cultural anhilation was the order of
> > the day, so they'd all blown their homes. Each master represented a
> > completely different form of Eastern European music, and confusing
> > one with any other would have been as weird to them as confusing
> > Bluegrass with 70's Funk. One afternoon Andy took me on a musical
> > tour of Eastern Europe with his amazing record collection, and he
> > kind of opened my eyes, if only for that day.
> >
> > At one point he played me several different kinds of music that were
> > native JUST to Istanbul, which I realize is not in Europe. Each one
> > sounded really different from the others. Amazingly, he had 78's of
> > music that was only played in Istanbul gay bars.
> >
> > Has anyone counted the time signature of this tune of Trio Polifonic?
> >
> > K
> >
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