Re: [Harp-L] harmoniums and bandoneons

["Rick Dempster" <rick.dempster@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Fourth or fifth Steve. The Em and Am fundamentals are already there in
either position. The A major would involve bending draws 1 and 4 to get
the major third (C#). That's my vote without having a harp in my mouth.
RD

>>> "steve@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <swebb@xxxxxxxxxxx> 4/12/2008 15:38 >>>

OK.. nobody else has taken the bait... We have a bunch of harp players
talking about their organs. Why am I  not surprised? 
Harp content: Has anyone heard if Bushman is still having trouble
filling orders for reed plates? Or are they back in stock? 
ALso, I could use suggestions about a song I'm trying to find harp
parts for.  THe guitarist/singer in the band I'm in has a new original
with the chords of A-Em-Am.....Second position is OK, though I'm still
searching cuz I just got the song Monday. But, I'm wondering if
something like fourth would be good here? I tried third and didn't like
it. Any suggestions?
Steve Webb in Minnesota, where it's 6 degrees and winter has arrived .


---- Robert Paparozzi <chromboy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> I've owned one I acquired from a church in Newark NJ back in the 60's
and it
> had pump pedals, I enjoyed playing it,,,,,
> 
> Another Harp player that plays Harmonium is my friend John Sebastian
Jr.
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> Best,
> Rob P
> 
> 
> On 12/3/08 10:53 PM, "Jonathan Ross" <jross38@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Rick Dempster writes:
> > 
> > "You've probably played a harmonium,"
> > 
> > I would bet the number of people on this list who have played a
true
> > harmonium is zero.  Possibly some of our European subscribers, but
> > even then I would doubt it's more than ten.
> > 
> > " if you've ever tinkered with a small
> > church or domestic reed organ,because that's what it is."
> > 
> > Not usually.  The broad category for all of these is "reed organ",
> > the harmonium actually refers to one of two specific forms of reed
> > organ.  The first is the historic instrument developed in France
in
> > the 19th century.  This was a pressure instrument which had very
> > specific features and was usually aimed at the highest end of the
> > market.  These were never very common, and are fairly rare outside
of
> > Western Europe (and not that common there).  The second instrument
> > called a harmonium is the modern Indian one which does not share
the
> > most distinctive features of the 19th century instrument.  I'm not
> > sure of any direct connection between the two, though there were
> > smaller, more portable instruments built by the same companies
which
> > made the larger art-harmoniums, so that may be the connection.
> > 
> > Most reed organs one finds in churches (especially in the US,
though
> > also in much of Europe) will be suction instruments with distinct
> > tonal and construction differences from a harmonium.  It's a bit
like
> > the differences between a piano and a clavichord. Or perhaps,
between
> > a harpsichord and a spinet.  Well, somewhere in-between those two.
> > The differences are quite significant for anyone wanting to play
> > harmonium music (such as that by Karg-Elert and others), since the
> > way the stops are lain out and the way the instrument can be
> > controlled are not the same.
> > 
> > " The bandoneon
> > is just a type of button accordion, particularly popular in tango
music,
> > but widely used elsewhere as well."
> > 
> > Actually, no.  The bandoneon is a type of concertina, not an
> > accordion at all.  The main differences are twofold.  First, the
way
> > the buttons are oriented to the body of the instrument
(accordions,
> > with one exception, have their keys/buttons arranged perpendicular
to
> > the body, concertinae parallel).  Second, the fact that
concertinae
> > don't have buttons which play a chord, thus the origin of the name
> > "accordion".
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   ()()    JR "Bulldogge" Ross (who should have bought that neat
> > concertina on eBay last month, and who will one day finish
restoring
> > his two manual reed organ before he gets the one with bells)
> > ()  ()
> > `----'
> > 
> > 
> > 
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