Re: [Harp-L] YouTube - AFTER YOU'VE GONE-- shtreiml



I think the groove thing gets to it. I can hear how he's playing the right notes and even constructing cute parallel phrases - not noodling at all in my book. But he sound like he's not quite keeping up with the tempo of the backing track, so he sounds out of the pocket rhythmically.

More shedding the tune at a slightly more relaxed tempo could do wonders for his delivery on this tune.

Winslow Yerxa

Author, Harmonica For Dummies ISBN 978-0-470-33729-5

--- On Tue, 12/2/08, John F. Potts <hvyj@xxxxxxx> wrote:
From: John F. Potts <hvyj@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [Harp-L] YouTube - AFTER YOU'VE GONE-- shtreiml
To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 8:36 PM

I don't have enough musical knowledge to qualify me to assess proficiency
with jazz changes, but i do know a little about groove---and however
proficiently this player gets around on the harmonica, overblows and all, the
notes he is playing have absolutely no relationship to the groove, beat or
meter.  His note selection may be very sophisticated, BUT he is playing those
notes without any consistent relationship to the beat. He is not putting notes
on (or off) the beats or anywhere in any sort of variation in relationship to
the beat. There is no meter or syncopation . He is not maintaining any sort of
groove which is why Rick says this sounds like doodling to him.
	
Listen to Diana Krall sing.  Much of her material is in the style of jazz
standards, with no back beat.  But her placement of the notes she sings on or in
relation to the beat is mesmerizing.  None of that sort of note placement going
on here.  The note selection may be sophisticated and he playing technique
highly proficient, but there is a total disregard for meter and groove.

Randy may be right, but Rick isn't wrong.

JP
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