Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Why do you want to play blues? In defense of the blues
"I started playing harp at age 53 (and am now 60). I didn't know there
were organizations (like SPAH and various harmonica clubs) for the
first couple of years that I tried to learn."
Bob: ...this is great..and pretty much echoes my own 'returning to
harmonica' playing experience...except I didn't head for 'blues' per se. Only fell in
love with 'that sound' after hearing it at my first Buckeye...Just want to
play all of the music I enjoy on a harmonica, but I understand the feeling of
a fish out of water not having known anything of the big harmonica world out
there...
"I looked for CDs with harp and "discovered" Kim Wilson, Paul Butterfield,
etc. I absolutely LOVED the emotional content of their playing-and still love
it more than any othermusic I like-and I like a lot of different styles and
genres of music. For
example, a player like Smokey Joe can move me to tears, because his
playing is filled with just the right techniques to convey a message about
how HE feels about the song, and I can FEEL it too! He's not one of the
ODBGs, but he can PLAY MUSIC that reaches to the core!"
...wow! I thought people were hearing only his brilliant jazz riffs (in his
youtube videos) and not that he really is playing 'emotionally'. I'm going
to 'out' him here..he'll probably be pis...er, I mean ticked off at me ;)
....I've been privileged to hear a cassette he did at least 20 years ago of
his playing on clarinet, trumpet, different saxophones...maybe even a trombone
in there...all amazing. I didn't know (or believe) at first that it was our
Smojoe playing, because he'd said he'd never had a professionally produced
album and this sure sounded like one. It's stupendous. He truly can do
anything he wants to on a chromatic (and is no slouch on a diatonic either).
At this Spah he did me an enormous favour..telling me I needed to practice
to get a couple of songs 'nailed'...before I could play at an open mic (with
him backing me)...so I really did hole up in my room as much as possible after
we'd narrowed it down to a few songs..practicing more than I usually do.
Then of course I threw all caution aside and decided on a song at the last
second I hadn't played at all before, lol. :)
Smokey was up to the challenge..we played at the very last open mic
Saturday afternoon....me still shaking in my shoes...with no audience at all - I was
thrilled. I most often play with my eyes closed...opened them to see at
least 20 people streaming by out of the seniors matinee...all making surprised
but favourable comments on my playing. I nearly fell off the stage, but
managed to hang on a bit longer, until Warren Bee plonked down in the middle of
"Ain't no Sunshine'....calling out to me in surprise...and that's when I lost
the thread in the middle of the song (don't worry,Warren - not blaming you :)
but managed to salvage it...only because SmoJoe kept going, riffing on and
improvising as only he can. We hadn't practiced that one either, actually.
Come to think of it, the one song I DID practice..Moon River, was the most
boring since my backing track was a bit slow...but SmoJoe knows just about
every song and can make anybody sound good. I'm ever so grateful. I now have
two open mics under my belt..this one with actual music behind me and someone
of his caliber playing along, giving me encouragement and backing. How cool
is that?
"My own playing tends more toward songs with an established melody,
such as gospel, country, bluegrass, rather than the blues, which is more
about a feeling rather than a specific melody (IMHO). When I succeed in
conveying the emotional flavor to the audience, often I'm left in tears at
the end of the song."
....wow...I feel exactly the same way. Which leads back to: how does one
keep playing when tears are leaking into one's instrument?...doesn't matter
quite so much when playing a guitar or piano...but with a harmonica it's quite
the quandary - at least for me....
"To me, the "blues" format (chord progression) is somewhat similar in
nature to Japanese haiku (poetry). Haiku has a very strict (restricted)
form, yet the masters of haiku can create entire worlds of emotional
content within it. The same is true of genuine blues players. For ME,
a player is "genuine" when he//she can convey the emotional content
of the song to the listener, causing the same emotions to be felt as part
of the music, REGARDLESS of the genre."
..actually...I don't think of any music as 'structured'...since all of my
playing (piano as well) is purely by ear, but I do agree that if I can't feel
the emotion in or behind the playing (or singing) the artist loses me rather
quickly, again regardless of the genre..and to me if I can't convey the
meaning of the song, there's no point in playing at all.
"I've also heard several
technically brilliant harmonica players who cannot (IMHO) play the blues.
Playing a bajillion notes just to show off ones chops as a speed freak just
turns me off. The chops are there, but it ain't got no soul. (I qualify that
as the opinion of a genuine "white bread" kind of guy; what would I know
about the blues?!? It's not like I've ever experienced any tragedy in my
"short" life - ROTFLMAO!)"
....weeeeell.. there are 'blues' players who play a 'bajillion' notes, and
there are those who don't really consider themselves purely blues artists..but
rather: 'blues/rock/indie/jazz innovative players who can play a bajillion
notes who also 'convey emotion' in other aspects of their songs...especially if
they're also vocalists. One certainly doesn't preclude the other. One
person I know in particular just oozes 'soul' (and, like me..has experienced
sufficient pain in life to qualify to express it through his music)...but doesn't
necessarily put it into every piece he plays for the several hours
performing for an audience every night on the road. I don't think any artist/human
could survive that kind of soul-baring. However...it's there in the half-dozen
deeply felt songs/instrumentals he plays and sings during his performances.
So if one is judging by one or two single videos...one might miss out on the
'soul' of that performer...
"For those with a dismissive attitude toward the "simplicity" of blues, I'd
suggest a deeper LISTENING to all parts of it, rather than focusing on the
external, somewhat limited form. Minimalism is extremely hard to work
toward in any field. Elegance arrives when everything unnecessary has
been pared away."
...absolutely...and I'd say this could also apply to those with a similarly
dismissive attitude towards what the media has termed 'smooth' jazz, for wont
of a better name. Good music is good music regardless of what it's called.
Sometimes a purely melodious horn line can be beauty personified all by itself
and not require dissonance to be considered acceptable or trad. jazz...Guess
I really do dislike the labels...
"I've seen the same kind of attitude in martial arts. Minimalist techniques
that "git'r done" are deprecated in favor of "flash," the Hollywood fiction
that requires multiple cameras and lots of retakes to get "right." I much
prefer one simple technique that stops the fight cold to ten thousand
flashy techniques that leave the opponent still fighting 15 minutes later.
And on THAT subject, I'm a 4th-degree black belt, so I AM qualified to have
an opinion.
My $0.02 worth,
Crazy Bob"
...you should ask SmoJoe to send you the most hilarious 'fight' video I've
just seen. It personifies what you've just described.
Elizabeth
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 03:54:39 -0700
> From: Gary Popenoe
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Why do you want to play blues? In defense of the
> blues.
> To: Richard Hammersley
> Cc: Bill Kumpe , Harp-l
>
> Guys, I play all of the genre and, while I am not expert in all, I
> have learned that the simpler forms are every bit as challenging as
> the more complex for many of the reasons you have already mentioned.
>
> A minimalist heart felt solo in the manner of Big Walter Horton takes
> so much feel and specialized technique it will only be mastered by
> someone with great experience both in life and with the instrument.
>
> The very same can be said about mastering the other genre.
>
> I think it was the great percussionist Airto who said something like
> it takes a great musician to make great music just banging two rocks
> together. (If some one can source that quote, let me know. )
>
> One of my favorite challenges is backing up singer songwriters. This
> role often excludes solos and is limited to gracing the song with
> color notes and some simple figures. It is a true excercise in "less
> is more." There is no forest of notes to hide my mistakes. Everything
> must be reduced to only that which is essential to the message.
>
> What is interesting and compelling is that I have learned that this
> must be my goal whether it is blues or bebop.
>
> When I get it right, the audience listens."
>
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