Re: [Harp-L] Marine Band Deluxe



D harps suck.
Steve Webb in Minnesota

---- David Payne <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> Everybody blows out the D first, it's not just you. As you move up the keys, starting at G, G-C are typically all the same reedplate, the slots and reeds are longer. When you get to D, you move up to the short slot, that goes up to F#. That's why the usual D keeps blowing out... the 1847 is the only long-slot D I can think of. If someone else knows of one, I'd like to know what it is. 
> 
> Dave
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> Elk River Harmonicas
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> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Joe and Cass Leone <leone@xxxxxxxx>
> To: pdxharpdog@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 4:09:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Marine Band Deluxe
> 
> 
> On Apr 25, 2008, at 3:22 PM, pdxharpdog@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> 
> > Hi list - I have a MB Deluxe in the key of D that I bought from a  
> > friend who didn't like the reed plate ridges.  I fell in love with  
> > it - very loud,  bright and with fast response - so I tuned it a  
> > bit yesterday and when I played it last night I cracked the same  
> > reed (draw 5) that I had just tuned. It cracked and broke smack dab  
> > in the middle of the reed length - no where near where I sanded off  
> > the tip. Is this just a coincidence that it was the same reed I tuned?
> 
> Yes. The reed was already failing. That's why it was loosing pitch.  
> Your tuning may have exascerbated it (depending on which angle the  
> torque was applied).
> 
> > I slipped a shim under the reed and carefully sanded with a small  
> > sanding wand as per Rupert's video.
> 
> Yes, as long as you went directly toward the rivet OR directly away  
> from it, you were probably fine. As long as the shim was thin enough  
> and you went PAST that fracture point. If you didn't go past the  
> fracture point, you may have given downward pressure which 'pinched'  
> the crack that was already IN the brass.
> >
> > How tough is it to replace a reed, and where would I find rivets to  
> > replace the drilled out one?
> 
> It is iffy to replace a reed and takes practice. I would practice on  
> another junker first. The rivet shouldn't be drilled out, It sould be  
> filed on the bottom side and then punched half way out and then the  
> entire rivet pad should be pried with a razor knofe till it is free.  
> Then the rivet should be chamfered on the very tip to remove the  
> 'flare'. This way it is reusable. You can make a rivet from a paper  
> clip. Taper it into a drift pin (i.e. the tip is every so slightly  
> smaller in dia than the main wire dia.) After seating the rivet, you  
> can clip off the top with cuticle cutters or other close cutting  
> cutters and begin to 'peen' a head onto the wire. THEN clip off the  
> bottom (opposite side of reed plate), and do the same.
> 
> > Would any reed of the same width and length get me back in the game  
> > with my harp?
> 
> Not necessarily, you either find a reed that is the same pitch OR one  
> that is LOWER. Then after seating, file the new reed UP to the  
> correct pitch.
> 
> >  I'm not an expert under the hood guy, but want to learn.  Right  
> > now everytime I go under the hood I feel like I'm ruining my harps  
> > a bit less often than in earlier attempts.  I never mess with new  
> > harps - just the ones in the boneyard.
> 
> Yes, do it that way.
> >
> > Also - it seems as though I replace D keyed harps more than any other.
> 
> Me too.
> 
> >  And it really doesn't matter what brand.
> 
> Right.
> 
> >  I am a SP20 stock guy most of the time
> 
> I play spl-20 exclusively
> 
> > , but loved the MB Deluxe until it died and have lost Delta Frosts  
> > in the key of  D as well.  I play other keys way more often - G's  
> > and A's seem to last forever as do C's.  B flats are problematic  
> > for me as well.  Anyone else have keys that crap out on them with  
> > more regularity than other keys?
> 
> Just the Ds. Also. I have never had a good F.
> >
> > I have an SP20 custom, key of A from Bob Meehan that is 2 years old  
> > and still in tune and working fine.  I also have a couple of Tim  
> > Moyers Journeyman harps that are more than two years old and they  
> > work awesome as well. Seems I'm a bit cursed with the D harps.
> 
> No, this is common.
> 
> smokey-joe
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any direction you can give me.
> >
> > PdxHarpdog
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