Re: [Harp-L] Choking the reeds -- harmful?

["Vern Smith" <jevern@xxxxxxx>]

Although I don't know for sure, I would like to present an argument based
mostly on theory but supported by a small amount of empirical data.  I do so
as much to stimulate discussion as to convince.

I posit that bending does NOT overstress reeds.

The stress in a reed is attributable only to reed deflection and nothing
else...not player pressure, not player embouchure, and not player effort
unless these player actions cause the deflection.

I just viewed again Dr. Bahnsons videotape in which he employs ultrasound,
endoscopic video, stroboscopic video, and X-ray video.  Most of the effort
is on the physiology of the player but there is some stroboscopic video of
the reeds during bending. It appears to me that the reed deflection is
greatest when the reed is vibrating at its natural, unbent pitch.

The familiar curve of amplitude as a function of excitation frequency in a
vibrating part shows that there is a gradual increase in amplitude as the
exciting frequency increases from zero, a very high peak at the resonant
frequency of the part, and a rapid decline in amplitude as the frequency
becomes greater than resonance.  From this I conclude that bending
embouchures tend to excite the reeds at other than the resonant frequency of
the reed(s).  It follows that the amplitude of vibration will be lower and
that the stress will also be lower.

It may be that bending is actually easier on a reed than plain old loud
playing at the reed's natural resonant pitch.

The false notion that bending is more stressful to reeds may arise because
the stress ON THE PLAYER is greater and the bent tone of a reed SOUNDS
strained. It seems as though the reed is stressed by being forced to do
something that it doesn't want to do.  We often falsely attribute human
qualities to inanimate objects

OK folks......there is my argument.  Have at it with your counter-arguments
and comments while I cringe behind my monitor.   ;o)

Vern
Visit my harmonica website www.Hands-Free-Chromatic.7p.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Philharpn@xxxxxxx>
To: <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:55 AM
Subject: [Harp-L] Choking the reeds -- harmful?


> Now that we've got the issue of reed material pretty well in hand, perhaps
> it's time to discuss long lived-reeds.
>
> Many people remember the old admonition from Hohner on that little paper
> with
> the harmonica: "Don't choke the reeds. Choking the reeds voids the
> warranty."
> FYI: Choking is an older term for bending.
>
> Is there any evidence that "skillful" bending and overblowing damaged
> reeds
> and shorten the reed life? (Keeping in mind that the opposing reed
> provides the
> bend, of course.)
>
> I don't overblow (very much) and have found that bending takes very little
> pressure or wind -- in fact just enough air to fog a mirror usually works
> for
> me.
>
> (I tend to think John Popper "blowing out reeds" during a performance
> extreme
> (not typical); but then I was wrong in '98 too.)
>
> Phil Lloyd