Re: [Harp-L] Lynwood Slim

To the self-styled cogoscenti, Jimmy Dorsey was/(is) an irrelevent square as opposed to Bird, who was was. Bird loved Dorsey, and credited him with a fair amount of inspiration for Bird.

There is a difference between a lick in a book, and a lick played.

A guy walked up to Sonny Stitt once and said, "Man, you're just playing Bird licks on that thing", and Sonny took the horn of his strap as if to hand it to him and said, "You try it".

If you're worried about being considered a second class musician, you're worried about the wrong things. If you think that someone else playing the instrument well and honoring tradition is keeping you down somehow, you're allocating too much time to pointing fingers.

And beware superficial differences in style that are mistaken for differences in content

Rex "Rich" Tobago






On May 26, 2007, at 1:17 AM, Eric Garcia wrote:

it doesn't matter how many tours i've been on.
i don't profess myself to be a great player and that's not where i'm comin from.
.... a lot of talentless assholes have toured all over the world and that doesn't make them
any better than the shit i spew...

just because i don't have anything posotive to say, (other than i like his stuff
and voice and songs) doesn't mean i'm ignorant.
"My point is...if you don't have anything positive to say...
why say something that is totally ignorant..."

(refering to: so from an accomplished harmonica player's perspective,
one has to admit that Lynwood doesn't play a lick that can't be found
in a "Beginning Harmonica for Dummies" workbook)

all i'm sayin is that..

">I suppose some believe that being creative overrides
great phrasing and tone and delivery...not it my book."

great "phrasing and tone and delivery" is still why we'll still be known as second class
musicians, when people that put in the work to make it a real source of
expression, (not me, but other respected harp players) get lumped into this class
get lumped into Good Harp Players... not harp players..

as far as JT Ross's zydeco band.. I bet that there was one or more musicians in that
band that played badass solos and tweaked shit around that aroused your interest
and kept you occupied more that a typical,, "ham and egger " zydeco band would,,
weather u noticied it or not..

.... so to all you "purist"... i love the licks, phrasing, and delivery as much as anyone..
let's call the sky blue when it's blue and notice the development of the instrument,,
weather it's "Walter's World" or some shit you never concieved of, in a position it's never
been done in... it's still progressive, inspiring, and expresses a creativity that
pushes us foreward instead of the kereoke machine that has given
the masses a hallpass to the stage.

eric






From: "Donnie MorTone" <harp_boy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Lynwood Slim
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 17:31:09 -1000

From: "Eric Garcia" <ericgar85@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, rhartt1234@xxxxxxxxxxx, harp- l@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Lynwood Slim
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:56:34 -0400

i don't think Chris was addressing any one of Lynwood's seemingly endless talents...
however, this is a harmonica forum...
so from an accomplished harmonica player's perspective, one has to admit
that Lynwood doesn't play a lick that can't be found in a
"Beginning Harmonica for Dummies" workbook with "bonus" CD.
the execution is fine but if we're referring to "creative" and "harmonica",
Lynwood is simply not your guy.

eric

Bogus ...Totally bogus...

These type of posts add nothing to the forum.

I suppose some believe that being creative over rides
great phrasing and tone and delivery...not it my book.

Some of the guys who "think" they are "modern" players
have the thinnest and whimpiest delivery I've ever heard...

but you won't hear me cutting them down to size when
they feel the need cluck and flap their wings about how
advanced and modern they are...each to his own...

Lynwood Slim is not here to defend himself...
so his friends and fans feel the need to show great respect
and admiration for his accomplishments.

How many tours of Europe have you done since the 70's?

How many CD's do you have out that sell worldwide?

My point is...if you don't have anything positive to say...
why say something that is totally ignorant...

(refering to: so from an accomplished harmonica player's perspective,
one has to admit that Lynwood doesn't play a lick that can't be found
in a "Beginning Harmonica for Dummies" workbook)

~Donnie MorTone~



From: "Chris Michalek" <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Ryan Hartt" <rhartt1234@xxxxxxxxxxx>, harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re:  [Harp-L] Lynwood Slim
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 07:23:37 +0000

well were both MN boys and I've heard him and played with him several times.

Maybe I don't hear blues the way most of you do...to me he sounded average to above average in a kim wilson kinda way. Good player but not so creative but then again there are very few harmonica players that I find to be creative.



>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ryan Hartt [mailto:rhartt1234@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 11:52 PM
>To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Lynwood Slim
>
>>From: "Chris Michalek" <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>Just a run of the mill traditional blues harp player.
>
>Man, calling Lynwood Slim a "run of the mill traditional blues harp player."
>is like calling the Mona Lisa a painting of some grumpy chick. First and
>foremost, Slim has the sweetest voice you'll ever hear. He's a Blues crooner
>for lack of a better term but he can put across a deep blues like nobody's
>business. Secondly, he plays harp like Walter Horton because he learned
>from Walter Horton but he is also a very sophisticated and melodic Blues
>chromatic player. While we are all trying to sound like George Smith, he'll
>slip in "Parker's Mood" or "Bye By Blackbird". The smooth vocal delivery
>juxtaposed with the low down harp make for a very interesting contrast.
>Combined with his choice of material and approach to performing it, he is
>genuinely unique in the traditional Blues singer/harp player market. But
>wait there's more...He is a great flautist. A true blues flautist, whose
>already melodic approach to the humble harmonica is amplified with the range
>of the flute. He is a great producer and engineer. He has worked with some
>of the US's and Europe's finest traditional Blues bands delivering dozens of
>high quality records. I'll bet that a lot of you have something that
>"Richard Duran" produced, mixed or arranged and you don't even know it.
>Lastly, he's just about the nicest guy you ever met.
>
>So yes he's "run of the mill" in the
>multi-talented-completely-original-super-nice-guy kind of way
>
>Ryan
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