Re: [Harp-L] Lynwood Slim

["Eric Garcia" <ericgar85@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

In other
> words, it can be cutting edge
> and creative as hell, but does that necessarily make it good music?
..... no, but that's something to shoot for.. the combination of the two 
make for good
music,, with varying ratios of creative, and "good" music...


,,if cutting edge creativity is not employed is it good music?
.... not necessarily "cutting edge",, i don't know about you,
but creativity is nice,, that's what makes me listen to somethin more than 
once.

eric




> From: hashbb@xxxxxxx
> To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Lynwood Slim
> Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 19:12:13 -0400
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> Lynwood isn't Walter Horton, neither is Kim Wilson,
> Guyger, Portnoy,  many others, etc. They all play classic blues in that 
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> doesn't mean they sound like or play like them.
> Your definition of creative is definately different than mine.
> I do think you can be creative in a musical context that has already been 
> trodden
> without being a pure copycat or rehash of what has come before.
> I would go as far to say that too many creative elements change the music 
> so much
> that it isn't even recognizable as that form at all.  In other words, it 
> can be cutting edge
> and creative as hell, but does that necessarily make it good music? In the 
> same thought
> if cutting edge creativity is not employed is it good music? It's all 
> highly debatable.
> This is, like music, totally subjective and my opinion only.
> Interesting food for thought.
> HB
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> From: Eric Garcia <ericgar85@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: hashbb@xxxxxxx; harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Fri, 25 May 2007 4:29 pm
> Subject: RE: Fwd: [Harp-L] Lynwood Slim
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