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1. Subject: [Harp-L] ...and Donald Black (EGS1217@xxxxxxx) 2. RE: WMS 40 - SO40 (Stan Ruffo) 3. Re: Harp-L Digest, Vol 45, Issue 9 (TomEHarp@xxxxxxx) 4. Re: Fwd: spah Milwaukee (Suave Blues Man) 5. Let's put all speculation aside (Jonathan Ross) 6. Re: magnets (Vern Smith) 7. RE;SUZUKI (Mark Kegel) 8. RE: ART Tube MP for PA (MLeFree) 9. reviews for JRNB archive shows (Garry Hodgson) 10. Chris Michalek please (Buddhas site change) (dennis moriarty) 11. Re: Chris Michalek please (Buddhas site change) (Garry Hodgson) 12. Re: Fwd: spah Milwaukee (Joe and Cass Leone)
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Message: 1 Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 18:47:54 EDT From: EGS1217@xxxxxxx Subject: Subject: [Harp-L] ...and Donald Black To: fernando@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <c25.1553a648.336bc09a@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Fernando writes:
"Hi Jonathan, hi Elizabeth,
I have found this recent video clip of Donald during the Musikmesse 2007:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUQP9h3gF6g
I hope you'll like it, there is even JOnathan's smile there ;-)
All the best, Fernando"
Thank you, Fernando! I've just watched and commented on it. Unfortunately
because of the nature of the music fest and the limitation of the camera's
speaker, it doesn't do full justice to the tremolo's sound. Donald's playing
is far richer and melodious than this video can convey, but it was still a
treat to hear him again and to see him clearly enjoying himself. He comes
across as quite a shy man, actually, so this was fun.
Elizabeth
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Message: 2 Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 13:52:46 -0700 From: "Stan Ruffo" <stan@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [Harp-L] RE: WMS 40 - SO40 To: <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <02fe01c78dc5$022d85c0$6400a8c0@obvious1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I have been trying to locate a system with the SO40 for many months now. (Tim tried to get me in touch with a dealer that had one left, but I missed it by minutes).
I was very pleasantly surprised to see the latest discussion on these great AKG units being available again.
Unfortunately, I just got of the phone with the distributor in Northridge, CA and he said the SO40 was discontinued probably about a year ago. There is no similar product available, nor or there plans for a similar product. When I asked why it appears on what looks like recently developed web pages, (specifically the page with the AKG WMS 40 Pro Universal Use), he said to indicate that the related products on that page can be used with the WMS 40 Pro. In my frustration, I told him I thought they should remove the link to the SO 40, but that it did make sense for those who might be considering upgrading their receiver. Bummer?
BTW, I?m still looking for one of those systems that includes the SO40?I can be reached offline at HYPERLINK "mailto:stan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"stan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Steamin? Stan
It was said in a message to harp-l on:
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 09:08:16 -0700
From: Greg Heumann <greg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Harp-L] AKG Wireless - was Jason Ricci Video
To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
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Chris I stand corrected. Last month I did an exhaustive search including emails direct to AKG. Even THEY said it was no longer available. Looks like these are new web poages - maybe they were just repackaging/rebranding. Good news because this is a MUCH better system than the Samson one, I think.
/Greg
> Like I said, it's available.
>
> It's now called AKG WMS 40 Pro Universal Use
> HYPERLINK "http://www.akg.com/site/products/powerslave,id,92 >5,pid,925,nodeid"http://www.akg.com/site/products/ >powerslave,id,925,pid,925,nodeid, > > 2,_language,EN.html > > HYPERLINK"http://www.akg.com/site/products/powerslave,id,29 >0,nodeid,2,pid"http://www.akg.com/site/products/po >werslave,id,290,nodeid,2,pid, > > 290,_language,EN.html > > > > It's still the same thing. > > > > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/787 - >Release Date: 5/3/2007 2:11 PM > >------------------------------ >Message: 3 >Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 14:38:53 EDT >From: TomEHarp@xxxxxxx >Subject: [Harp-L] Re: Harp-L Digest, Vol 45, Issue 9 >To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx >Message-ID: <d15.95524f6.336b863d@xxxxxxx> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
new danny klien band,any body heard them in the boston area??
tommy lee walker southside.
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Message: 4 Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 18:20:29 -0500 From: "Suave Blues Man" <res6k2zt@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Fwd: spah Milwaukee To: <harptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>, "Joe and Cass Leone" <leone@xxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <002101c78dd9$a38f5dd0$5d146147@nad966f33f1b66> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response
Dear Brothers & Sisters of Harmonica,
From MKE - General Mitchell International Airport http://www.mitchellairport.com/ http://www.airnav.com/airport/KMKE
http://travel.aaa.com/
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?wip=2&v=2&rtp=~
http://www.mapquest.com/
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/sheraton/property/overview/index.html?propertyID=347&PS=GWS_aa_MSN_sheraton_brookfield_122505
However, it will serve SPAH to forward your comments to them. harpspah@xxxxxxxx
Be Blues,
Suave Blues Man
P.S.
They have an excellent "Happy Hour" daily. It would be a good place to perform...And for the several days that we'll be there it could create a local media "draw". Benefits SPAH and all the future SPAH venues. Brings customers to the Sheraton and it can make a profit as a result. In the local area there is:
http://www.shopbrookfieldsquaremall.com/shop/brookfield.nsf/index
http://www.wisconsinskydive.com/
http://www.visitbrookfield.com/index.asp , and http://www.visitbrookfield.com/calendar/index.asp?month=8&year=2007&day=1
Milwaukee Brewers baseball - http://milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=mil&m=8&y=2007
http://www.wisconline.com/counties/milwaukee/map.html http://www.wisconline.com/counties/waukesha/map.html
Be Blues,
Suave Blues Man
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe and Cass Leone" <leone@xxxxxxxx> To: <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 3:15 PM Subject: [Harp-L] Fwd: spah Milwaukee
> > >> So, I'm looking through the spah pamphlet and no where in there is any >> sort of mini map or directions as to how to get to Brookfield from: >> Milwaukee? airport? IS there an airport?, or does one fly into O'Hare? >> >> Then what? Is the rest of the trip by train to Milwaukee? or Brookfield >> and then a bus/cab/streetcar/tram/jitney/incline/cable car/air >> tube/rickshaw/funicular... to the hotel? >> >> I think I'll go on 'Google Earth' and see where's the deal? >> >> smo-joe > > _______________________________________________ > Harp-L is sponsored by SPAH, http://www.spah.org > Harp-L@xxxxxxxxxx > http://harp-l.org/mailman/listinfo/harp-l >
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Message: 5 Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 19:50:07 -0400 From: Jonathan Ross <jross38@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [Harp-L] Let's put all speculation aside To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <1113847A-DFA8-4B70-BD7F-1328DBDB4B45@xxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed
Daniel Bernard writes:
"When I wrote to Brendan Powers concerning Suzuki's product line I expected that Brendan would actually be able to eventually answer the questions posed to him. Merely to state the obvious, I never asked such questions before, and Brendan seemed to be inviting such interaction."
Indeed he was, and as it's an open list, anyone who thinks they might have an answer or opinion on a subject can also join in. I felt that there were several factors you were overlooking and pointed those out. Brendan pointed other factors out (his are probably more accurate, of course, but I doubt that they invalidate my "speculation").
"I could pick apart JR "Bulldogge" Ross' correspondence sentence by sentence. But I don't think the argumentative answer satisfies anyone."
"I can answer that question, but don't have the time right now, sorry, you'll just have to trust me."
:)
I wasn't being argumentative, just trying to point out some things you seem to have missed.
"No I don't have any sales figures at my disposal! Only a few people on this list have such information and are unlikely to publish it. "
You made a massively general statement of fact (" The Japanese love Natural Minors"), I asked where you got that from. No need for sales figures even, just some sort of reason for the statement. Of course, sales and availability of natural minor harmonicas in Japan would be the most relevant to this discussion.
" I recall hearing on Howard Levy?s DVD that the natural minor harmonica contains the Japanese scale within it."
Which tells me why you made the assumption. However, that's all it is, an assumption. It would take a look at what harmonicas are actually used to say whether natural minor harmonicas are common in Japan. I'm pretty sure they aren't (IIRC, it's standard Asian-style tremolos that are most common, though it may be significant that many companies also offer minor-tuned tremolos in Asia).
"Suzuki markets the Humming Tremolo in C, C#, A, G, D, Am, Gm, and Dm in the USA. [4] All the minor and major keys are available in Europe. [5] I know that means ?Natural Minor!? [7] It is incontrovertible that harmonicas are being sold in other parts of the world that are not available here."
Yes, many models are sold overseas that are not available in the US. And yes, Suzuki does sell the Humming Tremolo in more keys in other markets. That last word is the key: market. The market for tremolos in the US is rather small, whereas it's huge in Asia, and perhaps larger in Europe. Companies tend not to make an effort to import a model which won't sell. Suzuki probably doesn't believe that more keys will sell in the US. So if you want them you have to go overseas for them. With the internet that's rather easy now. Of course, none of this has to do with Richter diatonic harmonicas, which I thought was the subject of this discussion; also I note that Suzuki doesn't sell diatonic harmonicas in anything other than standard tuning from any of the links you gave.
"There appears to be an interest on this list about how a harmonica manufacturer determines it's product line."
There is such an interest. Unfortunately there isn't a similar interest in understanding the basics of how markets operate and the most simple principles of economics which tend to be the determining factors behind these decisions, especially import and export decisions.
I've seen people complain about Lee Oskar not allowing other Tombo products to be sold in the US dozens of times. What they ignore (either in ignorance or willfully) is that LO tried to carry the full Tombo line, but these didn't sell, so they now just carry the Lee Oskar models. However, almost every time people tend to see sinister motives for Lee Oskar blocking the other Tombos from the market, when in truth LO would love to sell all the Tombo line, just it's not worth importing stock for sale through traditional retail outlets (who wouldn't want to carry these in the first place). Perhaps the internet business model might change that, but it's still too early to say. You seem to similarly be making assumptions about Suzuki based on illogical factors in your post, so I felt a need to point those out.
"We all have our sacred cows."
I have no sacred cows. I was merely trying to point out the flaws in comparing apples to oranges.
"I like alternate tunings on a diatonic. Someone else likes a particular kind of tuning on a chromatic."
I like both these things. Neither sells and were I in business I wouldn't bother trying to manufacture something which doesn't sell-- were I a customizer I would probably be willing to make a harmonica in any tuning the customer wanted, for the proper fee. But the difference in what is easy for an individual to do and an industrial manufacturing concern is rather significant. Seydel seems to be trying to merge the two, and I am glad for that. However, Hering also tried that for a while and it didn't work out as well for them. It's a risky proposal, and it spends a lot of energy catering to a very small market. But then, so do the Suzuki Overdrive and the Hohner XB-40, and I'm also quite glad they were made.
The main thing I wanted to point out with regards to your post was not in answer to these questions, but rather the flaw in comparing two things which are very different except in one superficial category. Thus the examples I gave of things which are similarly similar in a broad way, but not very similar when looking at the entire range of features (a Ferrari and a Hyundai, for example--and no offense to Hyundai's, they've won the JD Power rating the last two years, IIRC, so they are quite nice in many ways, but comparing them to a Ferrari is similar to the comparison you were making between brands and models).
"[Brendan Power] is taking a hiatus this year, but he made a good living on alternative tunings."
You have no way of knowing what the majority of Brendan's harmonica work was, and what percentage alternate tunings represented. It included alternate tunings, but a simple look at his website shows how diverse it was. Moreover, even if every harmonica Brendan put out was an alternate tuning, that would still represent 0.000000000000084% of the overall harmonica market in the US alone (the number is made up, however take a minute to think of the overall number of harmonicas sold in the US per year, then the number of harmonicas Brendan could work on in a year and I think the point becomes clear). That's not a market most manufacturers would want to bother with. That's not to say alternate tunings are bad as you will find that I have often recommended and championed them, but just a recognition of reality in an attempt to answer a question posed. If you don't like the answers, well, then I really can't help you there.
()() JR "Bulldogge" Ross () () & Snuffy, too:) `----'
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Message: 6 Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 16:50:39 -0700 From: "Vern Smith" <jevern@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] magnets To: "Leonardo Kenji Shikida" <shikida@xxxxxxxxx>, "Harp-L" <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <002a01c78ddd$dabf7de0$6401a8c0@user292e480637> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response
Magnets placed near the reeds, if they have any effect at all, would tend to dampen the vibration of the reed. The reed is a conductor. The magnetic field induces electrical currents in a moving conductor...the reed. There is no large loop but there could be small loops within the reed in which case the currents are called "parasitics". The effect may be very small if the field is weak. The currents would convert mechanical vibrational energy into heat.
The main effect would be that you would have to blow a bit harder to get the same amplitide of reed vibration. Magnets and shorted coils are placed in micro balances to dampen their oscillations.
Magnets, because of their unseen fields, are favorites for scamming the non-technical consumer, especially the ones sold to be worn near the body to allegedly alleviate pain. If the body responded to magnetic fields, an MRI scan would be instantly fatal because the field strengths used are orders of magnitude greater than those from little permanent magnets. If one has an implanted pacemaker, then he must avoid strong magnetic fields because that is how information is transmitted to change the pacemaker modes and settings.
Vern Visit my harmonica website www.Hands-Free-Chromatic.7p.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Leonardo Kenji Shikida" <shikida@xxxxxxxxx> To: "Harp-L" <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 9:51 AM Subject: [Harp-L] magnets
> from:
>
> http://www.harponline.de/index.php?page=specials/hering/specials106_goldblow_01&lang_id=en_GB
>
> Hering released new diatonic harps, customized for overs.
>
> Among several interesting characteristics, they're using magnets near the
> reeds.
>
> I am curious about what is the effect of such mechanism. How magnets
> change the harp sound? Do they influence over harmonics? Ou maybe do
> they make overs easier?
>
> What are your thoughts?
>
> TIA
>
> Kenji
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Message: 7 Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 17:51:36 -0600 (Central Standard Time) From: "Mark Kegel" <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [Harp-L] RE;SUZUKI To: <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <463A7588.000003.04056@Mark> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I bought a couple of Suzuki promasters that are valved. They have a unique sound but they rattle on the bending end. Noticeable through the mic Am I playing it too hard? Or is the valved version just a poor choice. Harpo Mark
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Message: 8 Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 18:14:52 -0600 From: "MLeFree" <mlefree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: [Harp-L] ART Tube MP for PA To: <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <PIEEJNOLCOHOFHHNFIFDAEBODCAA.mlefree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hey, John. Saw Anne & Pete last weekend. Getting better and better!
John K.wrote: > My 2 cents on the Tube MP for PA. I haven't tried it in awhile > because I ruled it out for that purpose some time ago -- seemed too > clean even though it has a tube in there. I think it warms things > up, but it is clean -- designed for recording even vocals I think. > The harp commander works grerat for this as has often been > discussed. What I also found to work well for my taste is the Boss > Fender Bassman (FBM) pedal with a DI behind it (a not-so-poorman's > HC? the FBM-1 is $150 new)). I have no experience with the Boss > Blues Driver pedal (price or sound-wise), so I don't know how it > compares to the FBM.
When I play acoustically, I'm want to get a nice, well-conditioned (like John says, "warm"), yet "clean" sound, not an over-driven one, so I use an ART Tube MP Preamp along with my (original, non-modified) Audix Fireball. It's a schweeeet combination, methinks. Sounds great and it is virtually impervious to feedback. I usually play with the Fireball on a stand so I can use my hand effects, so the anti-feedback attributes of the Fireball are key. BTW, I have no intention of having my Fireball modified with the Musselwhite mod. I think it is a near perfect mic for the above stated purpose. I have several antique bullets and my personal favorite, the Shure 545 stick mic, for various levels of "crunch" when I play amplified.
> --- In harp-l-archives@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, B Boggs <ceudoazul@...> wrote: > > Last night I used a Boss Blues Driver pedal into a DI box into PA > (once again- KUDOS to Peter "Madcat" Ruth for sharing a good tip). A > Turner bullet with one of Steve Warner's Thunderharp mic elements was > plugged into the pedal and got a distorted quality that was nice for > the blues. Chris Dracup played (excellent slide, blues > guitarist/singer in Albuquerque) played through PA with acoustic > Martin mic'ed- no guitar amps. Everything I brought to the open mic > was in a small carry-on size bag. I played with Chris and later with > two other guitarist/singers and once I adjusted gain on the pedal, it > sounded decent. Now, I am curous and may check out the ART Tube MP > mentioned below. Has anyone AB'd the Boss Blues Driver/ DI rig and > ART Tube MP for playing into a PA? Not needing a DI box makes a > blues jam/open mic rig even simpler. Chris Dracup mentioned the Harp > Commander and I said the pedal/DI was a "poor man's harp commander." > I have never heard the Harp Commander.
My feeling is that the ART Tube MP Preamp is a very nice and highly affordable DI box, well suited for a low-z mic like a good vocal mic or the Fireball. I wouldn't think of using it for an hi-z mic. There's no reason. I also wouldn't compare the MP to the Harp Commander other than in the coincidental fact that the HC can also act as a DI box. The HC has far more functionality than that.
My 2 cents anyway.
Michelle
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Message: 9 Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 20:27:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Garry Hodgson <garry@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [Harp-L] reviews for JRNB archive shows To: Harp-L@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <2007050320271178238443@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
i recently announced here that a recent jason ricci show (4/25) was up on the archive. judging from the fact that it's now been downloaded 1277 times, i'd guess a bunch of you have checked it out (the 4/28 show, posted a few days later, has only been downloaded 131 times).
so i wonder if i could ask those of you so inclined if you might write some reviews of the shows you like. every show on the archive has a "write a review" link that lets you rate the show and add your own commentary. this is helpful to prospective listeners in deciding what shows to listen to, or what is unique about a given show. besides, the ones with no reviews look kinda sad and lonely. you'll need to register to add reviews, but this is simple and costs nothing.
among the shows some of you have heard and/or seen are:
terra blues 4/25: http://www.archive.org/details/jrnb2007-04-25.flac16 warmdaddy's 4/28: http://www.archive.org/details/jrnb2007-04-28.flac16 MUF 3/10: http://www.archive.org/details/jrnb2007-03-10.flac16
i feel a little funny asking people to do this; i hope it's not out of bounds.
don't anyone feel obliged to do so. but if the music moves you and you
feel inclined to tell people about that, have at it.
thanks a lot.
incidentally, the first JRNB show on the archive, from 11/11/2004, has been downloaded 10,709 times! the point of putting them up there was to get the music heard more widely; i guess it's working. http://www.archive.org/details/jrnb2004-11-11.shnf
---- Garry Hodgson, Senior Software Geek, AT&T CSO
nobody can do everything, but everybody can do something. do something.
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Message: 10 Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 20:37:36 -0400 From: dennis moriarty <dmoriarty@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [Harp-L] Chris Michalek please (Buddhas site change) To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <3B0C0D42-FA2F-4E64-B528-3C1F81B135A6@xxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
Is the Buddha site only temporarily down? http://www.myspace.com/blowintheblues
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Message: 11 Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 20:45:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Garry Hodgson <garry@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Chris Michalek please (Buddhas site change) To: "dennis moriarty" <dmoriarty@xxxxxxxxxx>, harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <2007050320451178239514@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
dennis moriarty <dmoriarty@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Is the Buddha site only temporarily down? > http://www.myspace.com/blowintheblues
if you mean the buddha's garden forum, it is now at: http://www.buddhasgarden.net/ and seems to be working fine.
not sure about buddha's groove (http://www.thebuddhasgroove.com/). i've never seen it say more than "under construction".
---- Garry Hodgson, Senior Software Geek, AT&T CSO
nobody can do everything, but everybody can do something. do something.
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Message: 12 Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 21:00:24 -0400 From: Joe and Cass Leone <leone@xxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Fwd: spah Milwaukee To: buzz <buzzo@xxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <89ED53BF-AD98-4946-AC39-C41994D5C6E7@xxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
On May 3, 2007, at 5:00 PM, buzz wrote:
> maybe your not invited
Of course I am. I 'Killed' in Columbus.
> or maybe Brookfield is a suburb of Milwaukee close to the Milwaukee > airport or maybe you should check mapquest or maybe your just > kidding & already know all this. See you in Milwaukee; > buzz.......
I Googled Earth and was able to zoom in on Billy Mitchell field and follow the interstate to the hotel. It is across the blvd from a country club and next to a shopping center. Getting out of S.W. Fla IS a problem and now I just have to find a flight that doesn't stop 4 times or go by way of Durban, Perth-Freemantle, Valpariso, or Zamboanga.
:) smo-joe > > Joe and Cass Leone wrote: >>> >>> So, I'm looking through the spah pamphlet and no where in there >>> is any sort of mini map or directions as to how to get to >>> Brookfield from: Milwaukee? airport? IS there an airport?, or >>> does one fly into O'Hare? >>> >>> Then what? Is the rest of the trip by train to Milwaukee? or >>> Brookfield and then a bus/cab/streetcar/tram/jitney/incline/cable >>> car/air tube/rickshaw/funicular... to the hotel? >>> >>> I think I'll go on 'Google Earth' and see where's the deal? >>> >>> smo-joe >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Harp-L is sponsored by SPAH, http://www.spah.org >> Harp-L@xxxxxxxxxx >> http://harp-l.org/mailman/listinfo/harp-l >> > > !DSPAM:5614,463a4d8710598942833300! > >
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