Re: [Harp-L] You wanna play harp?




On Jul 15, 2007, at 7:47 AM, BiscuitBoy714@xxxxxxx wrote:



Thanx Smo Joe, you made me laugh and cry at the same time. I came up with
some other things.


                           Have you been successful in your harmonica
endeavors?

'I' don't think so. But it's all my fault. If I had applied myself more, I might have become a contender (lol) It's too lengthy to go into. Basically I started playing chromo in 56 and by 57 was playing in a cafe in the park in Naples Italy. By 58 I was playing in a cafe at the Austerlitz train station in n.e. Paris. Back in Staten Island, I joined local 802, but I wasn't allowed to drive, and so I couldn't make my appointments. Ferry, Bus, el, & sub weren't cutting it. 3 months shy of 18 I left home and didn't play again for 15 years. Then, after having a child born with a birth defect, I got involved with Pgh childresn's hostp. That's where I met Fred Rogers (Mr. Rogers Neighborhood). So, I would surface every couple years and appear somewhere. Children's hospital telethon, Jerry Lewis Telethon, WWVA Wheeling W.Va., last Christmas show at the Ryman, American motors commercial, Purina's 'Mighty Dog' commercial, Old Spice commercial (where I also appeared as a sailor with a sea bag on my shoulder), and local junk.


First....think of when you started out.

I started out in Trieste Italy. I bought a diatonic blues harp and had it 2 weeks, It fell out of my pocket and It was run over by a streetcar as I was running for the lead streetcar to go to school. I was 9. It was 1951. The cost was 1550-1600 lire (about $2.50)


How much did you pay for your
first harp? (that's the only thing I remember about 1972) Now think about how
much they are now!!

Well, considering wage scales back then as compared to now, I see them as having kept pace.


Did it make you happy the first time you bent a note?

At 12 1/2 I went to chromo. It was a Seydel Bandmaster. Made in EAST Ger. I bought it on my third trip to Italy. It was 1956. Although you couldn't get them in the U.S. because of the iron curtain?. that made no difference to Italy. They would deal with anyone :) I think it cost $8.5o. It went from 3/20/56 till 7/25/56 when it went down with the Andrea Doria. My second diatonic was purchased several months later (in the U.S.). It was around $3.oo? It was a blues harp. I didn't like it. I switched to Marine Bands.


I didn't bend a note until I had the Marine bands about a year. So..mid 57. I was freaking OVERJOYED. See, with all the moving I did, I was always the new kid in school and had to constantly make new friends. My harmonicas were my pals. They even had their own names. ALL my instruments have names. Claire & Annette are my clarinets, Sophie was my sop sax, Spike (Jones) was my trumpet. Flute was 'Petite Fleur'.

How many of your friends bought harps after you did?

As mentioned, I constantly moved, so the answer is...None to my knowledge.


How many of them kept playing for more than 2 weeks?

N/A BUT, I DO know that of all the people who tried harmonica that 'I' knew, almost none stayed at it.


In your life have you tried to spread the love of harp?

In my own way. I never put it down and have always supported the idea. The one thing I don't do is agree with programs that recruit young harp players. My feeling is that a kid either wants to play harp or they don't. I feel that if they want to, they should make it known. No one has ever bought my harps. I bought my own with shoe shine boy, paper boy, scrap collector boy, and soda jerk boy monies.


    Did you ever get cold chills playing along with somebody  that you
thought was the MAN?

Yes, Lee Oskar, Chris Bauer, Will Galison, Michael Polesky, Ron Kalina. I belonged to the Pgh Jazz Society and would sometimes sit in with local & visiting musicians. Kenny Burrell, Jimmy McGriff, Manhattan Transfer come to mind. Hendrik Meurkens would come to town and I would go to see him. I would N E V E R sit in with him, (Not that he would ever ask) He is (in MY mind) THE ne plus ultra (at this time).


Do people ever ask you to play...ie. Hey boy....did ye bring dat dare
Juice Harp wich ye?

Yes, every week, I will be at the Lighthouse tonight (jazz), Keeler's pub Wed.(pop, country, r&b,)

Did you ever get a date because of the way you play the harp?

Never, but once a woman threw her keys up on stage.

It was worth it.

Ya know, I can't complain.

Now try and not think about how much money you have made compared to
how much time you put into it and how much you spent on harps over the years.

It has COST me to play harp. And I always buy cheap harps and they last many many years because of my style. I currently have a clarinet case fitted with 23 spl-20s and 6 chromos. I have only had to junk 9 diatonics (4 were Fs) and 4 chromos.

Please feel free to add on at your leisure.


When I'm on my death bed I want them to do what Robert Cline suggests
and stick a harp in my mouth. That way when I go out I will play that last 4 5
6 blow chord and they will know I'm done.

Right, "I can't stop my leg"...I LOVE it.


Smokey-Joe & the Cafe s

Randy BiscuitBoy Blues

In a message dated 7/15/2007 2:00:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
leone@xxxxxxxx writes:

So...you wanna play harp eh. Lotsa luck

Listed below will be several things to  consider when thinking of
playing harp. They are not necessarily in  order of importance because
I'm just going to let it  roll.

One thing to consider is: "Where do I sit on the lunch box or  food
chain of harp"? Am I:
1.. a harmonica owner? A harmonica  owner is one who buys a harmonica,
toodles around a little bit and  then relegates the poor lonely little
'krome klondike' to a  drawer.

2.. A beginner? A beginner is one who is actually spending  some
semblance of time in an effort to play. Their progress may  be
hampered somewhat by their ability or inability OR it may just be  a
matter of only having been at it for a short time. They may be  able
to swawk out a semi recognizable tune or two.

3.. A  novice? A novice is one who is able to get some pretty sounds
and  possibly tunes out of the 'Tin Tootsie Roll'. To the point that
an  impromptu 'Happy Birthday' played at a party won't bring too much
pie throwing.

4.. An intermediate? An intermediate is at the point  where they might
go from gussing to the bravery of trying an open  mike stint. Some
mistakes are evident but not enough to ruin  everyone's fun. There
might even be clapping. You WISH.

5..  Advanced? Advanced means that you may be able to pull sunshine
out  of your anus and do an evening slot at a harmonica festival. You
have now arrived at the point where playing with a band is not out  of
the question.

6.. Expert? You don't make many mistakes,  you do some fast +/or
difficult stuff and have enough 'snowjoberol'  to pull it off.

7.. Professional? You are good enough to get paid...regularly

8.. Master? You are one of the 2 dozen or so getting the commercials,
jingles, movie sound tracks, and sitting in on other people's records.


9.. Virtuoso? You are one of a half dozen who can write your own ticket.

Then ask yourself: What do I expect from the  harmonica and Where do I
want to go with it.

How about  budget? If you are in the lower branches of the salad tree,
buying  expensive harps doesn't make much sense, BUT, I WOULD suggest
this:  Always get harps that are 1 eschelon above your position on the
ladder. Leave some room for advancement. Playing a harp that's
lousier than YOU is a drag and will bring dis-allusionment.

Just  tossing some figures out on the table and seeing what they do,
if  you make (say) $41,895.84 per year, and allowing 1 per cent for
harmonicas, we come up with $418.96. That's $139.65 for a chromo (we
only need one...for now), and 12 (min) diatonics at $23.27  each.

Now it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to see that if you only  make
$27,930.56, you are POOR and have to adjust accordingly. $93.10  for a
chromo, and 12 (min) diatonics at $15.51 each.

Now  naturally, we don't blow harps out all the time..(DO we?) But ,
we  can see that what with buying food, making mortgage & car
payments, utilities, insurances, taxes, clothing, medical, gasoline,
etc. we can't spend ALL our money on harps.

As to whether a  harmonica is worth the price. It's only worth the
price IF we can  afford it. It's worth the price if we love to play
enough to adjust  somewhere else. Can our playing amortise (justify)
the expense? Some  (like me) use harp for therapeutic purposes. Mental
health, so to  speak. There was a time when (in the words of Jerry
Adler) I lived  hand to mouth. Lived from pay day to pay day. Since I
was paid every  other week or every fortnight,  I was oft to say: "
I'm Only 13  days away from being homeless".

Now, I can get whatever I want. And  remember, most harmonicas today
are beyond the capabilities of the  players.

smokey joe said it





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