RE: [Harp-L] Mars contest/what constitutes a pro
Larry and Jason,
Thank You for providing the harmonica community with a really cool "beef".
I'll preface by saying I don't personally know either of the two men. Only
their playing. Although, Larry you did snub me at SPAH when I was just a
kid because I couldn't overblow yet... You probably don't remember -- but I
do. It's all good though.
It seems that It's clear that Jason is a "pro" player right now and also
presents himself as a professional. At the time the Mars contest was held,
he wasn't a pro and hadn't been in the past. It seems that there isn't
anyone better to judge that than the Mars officials and Jason has provided
facts that they did their homework on his status of pro or not pro.
One thing that is NOT clear to me is why Larry felt the need to point out
that he feels Jason WAS a "pro" at that time. Did Larry lose to Jason?
What other reason is there? Seems that Jason's challenge to provide some
proof of his own or dispute Jason's proof is reasonable. It's also clear
looking at this rationaly that Larry, your beef should be (7 years ago...)
with the MARS PEOPLE. They set the standard.
I'm just offering my opinion and observations. No disrespect meant to
anyone.
Peace,
Noah
www.viciousaloysius.com
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From: jason@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Harp-L] Mars contest/what constitutes a pro
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:30:22 -0800
Larry that really hurt man....Anyone that knows me can say a lot of
negative things about me ..but dishonest has never been one, at leats not
since I got sober..
The Mars Contest. I think was the year 2000. It was suggested to me that
I enter the contest by the band leader of a local band I was playing with
in south FL at the time called the Nucklebusters mainly for the purpose of
winning an amp which at the time I did not have. The rules for entering the
contest WERE You must be an amatuer player not a pro. I aked at Mars in
very clear language several times what constitutes a Pro? Their responce
each time was someone that makes less than half of their money each year
from music and one who has never had a record deal. they even became
annoyed at me and thought I was some how bragging becuase I keptmentioning
the Nucklebusters. At the time and for one year prior to the contest I was
working at a local record store in Lake worth fl and gigging weekly with a
local band, incidently former harmonica players from that local band and
other rival local bands were in the contest along side me......prior to
that I had been working at a restaurant in Del ray for a year and that year
I didn't play one show for money the whole year....prior to that I had
lived and played with Junior Kimbrough, had been to Europe, had made money
in the past from music...With Junior I made 30.00 dollars a week 100.00 if
I was lucky and I sold drugs to make a living. When I went to Europe and
toured I had to take a vacation from my job at Rich's Deparment store in
maine as a stock boy to go when I got back from Euorope my Job was gone so
I began work at a dry cleaners. The list goes back and back like that! I
always had day jobs up until I got the gig with Big Al and the Heavy
Weights two or three years after that...Tons of the Mars harmonica
contestestents worked weekend gigs as well and thats all I was or had been
doing...If I ever made a living from music prior to that it was because I
was making way more selling dope and did't have to get a regular job...Both
CD's I had made in 95 and 97 were self produced with Mom and I's money 500
of each were made and most were sent to clubs,labels, radio stations and
friends in an attempt to be a pro.
Larry what bothers me is I thought we were friends and I once explained
all this to you at a show I think, you should be more sure about facts
before you accuse people of lying, cheating, etc.... Either you don't or
won't believe it what I said...But do believe my feelings are hurt from
your post...
I had to deal with enough of this from players that didn't win after I
won in 2000 and the Mars Music Store took my pay stubs for the last year
from the record store i was working at to prove to all those people that I
had enterd under Kosher circumstances...so if you need more proof find
their number cause they got the pay stubs...and the Rules were less than
half your income from music
A Pro is some one who isn't bitter from harmonica a contest from 7 years
ago. Sorry bout that but you had deserve it.
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