Re: [Harp-L] chrom-style bends on a diatonic

[Philharpn@xxxxxxx]

Winslow is correct.


But again this whole project (other than the exercise of pasting valves) 
depends on your final goal.
It appears that you have confused richter-possible bends with chrome possible 
bends.

No matter what you do (except maybe overblows) you will NEVER get the same 
bends on a solo-tuned harp that you get with a richter-tuned harp.

Professional-style chromatic players do a lot of single-reed bending, mostly 
for expression and sometimes to achieve actual notes.



In a message dated 8/21/07 3:05:01 PM, winslowyerxa@xxxxxxxxx writes:


> =====On an unvalved solo tuned diatonic:
> 
> Draw 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 and 11 will bend down one semitone.
> 
> Draw 2, 6, and 10 will bend down less than a semitone, but enough to
> sound like a change in pitch.
> 
> Draw 4, 8, and 12 will bend down only microtonally (i.e. a small amount
> that has expressive qualities but is too small to measure in terms of
> semitones)..
> 
> Blow 4, 8, and 12 will bend down less than a semitone, but enough to
> sound like a change in pitch.
> 
> The remaining blow notes will bend down only microtonally.
> 
> =====On a fully valved solo tuned diatonic, all reeds are valved and
> all notes will bend down at least a semitone. They may bend much
> farther depending on reed adjustment and player skill.
> 
> =====On a partially valved instrument you would only valve some of the
> reeds strategically. For instance, if you like the sound of the
> dual-reed semitones bends on Draw 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 and 11, you would put
> valves on the draw reed but not on the blow reed, so that the blow reed
> could contribute to the bend. But you'd probably valve all the other
> reeds so that you could get them to bend at least a semitone.
> 
> =====One thing to remember: A valve always affects the reed opposite
> the reed you are valving. A valve on a draw reed sends all the airflow
> to the blow reed and thereby affects the blow reed's tone, volume, and
> bending ability, while a valve on a a blow reed sends all the airflow
> to the draw reed and affects the draw reed's tone, volume, and bending
> ability.
> 
> Winslow
> 
> 
> 
> --- Frank Nims <howbah@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > appreciate the replies!
> >   
> >   there is a lot of material on harp-l re valving - usually
> > half-valving - a richter harp, but I didn't find anything about
> > trying it on solo tuned harps.
> >   
> >   maybe the title I picked is misleading - I don't want to _sound_
> > like a chrom: I want to be able to bend every note, from bottom to
> > top, blow and draw - of the C scale, since that's all solo tuneds are
> > available in - a half-step down.
> >   
> >    I don't mind differences in tone - a step-&-a-half draw bend on 3
> > has a different tonality from an unbent blow 6, & I'm pretty much OK
> > with that.
> >   
> >   And I don't mind the work that might be involved - well, actually I
> > do, the picture of me sitting at the kitchen table dripping glue
> > everywhere while valves/windsavers fly all around the room every time
> > someone opens the door is not an attractive one.  Still I wouldn't
> > mind giving it a try, as long as the basic theory is correct.
> >   
> >   So ... is it?
> >   
> >   
> 
> 




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