[Harp-L] Re: Harp-L Digest, Vol 26, Issue 1
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- From: chris smith <harpshredder@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 21:55:58 -0700 (PDT)
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Come on guys, what kind of crap are you putting
out ? Do
you want to advance harmonica playing or bring it
back to
when the musician's union considered it a toy ? The
fact is
everything matters if you really want to have your
harp playing be an art and not just a bunch of random
noises . I'm
glad Stevie Wonder was mentioned because his playing
is
exquisite . I learned almost everything I klnow about
chromatic playing by taking apart his style .
Chris M. I've never heard you play but I
suspect you're
excellent .However, saying notes don't matter is
absurd . If
someone's playing an Ab blues and you're playing 2nd
pos.
on a D harp (key of A) it will sound like crap . Maybe
you
think everything is avant-garde and cool but the rest
of us
hopefully are into musical communication in other than
a strictly shock mode .
Iceman,I'm eternally jealous .I never saw one of
my biggest musical heroes, Albert Collins, and you did
. As far as Miles being sloppy :I bow down to the
church of sloppy . In
point of fact, Miles was a highly trained musician , a
Juilliard
grad, also,of course cut his teeth w/Charlie Parker .
My guess
is you'll wait a very long time before encountering a
more
influential jazz musician than Miles (who i did enjoy
seeing in
his later years and he was still cool .) Yes, I know
Dizzy could blow circles around him but dude Kinda
Blue (the ult-
mate and biggest-selling jazz album) CAN'T be taken
away
from Mr. Davis .
Onward and upward,
Chris
"Hammer" Smith
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> 1. Carey Bell , Black Eyed Peas (Steve McIver)
> 2. Re: The way I see it; [and the rest of us]?
> (Chris Michalek)
> 3. Re: making my own "melody maker" - question
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> 4. Re: The way I see it; [and the rest of us]?
> (icemanle@xxxxxxx)
> 5. Re: New to the list HELLO!!! (Mojo Red)
> 6. Re: Stevie wonder's new cd (Chris Michalek)
> 7. Re: Stevie wonder's new cd (Slim Heilpern)
> 8. Stevie Wonder's New CD (Slim Heilpern)
> 9. Re: Harp-L Digest, Vol 25, Issue 48 (Richard
> Hunter)
> 10. Re: The way I see it; [and the rest of us]?
> (billannette)
> 11. Re: this recent thread on positions, notes,
> colors etc...
> (Richard Lister)
> 12. Re: New to the list HELLO!!! (Jonathan Metts)
> 13. Opps I did it again. Pop is for the week.
> (Chris Michalek)
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> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:27:45 -0500
> From: "Steve McIver" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Harp-L] Carey Bell , Black Eyed Peas
> To: "Harpl Post" <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> Hey gang,
>
> Sittin here doing inventory listening to the above,
> Some very cool harp
> going on, rhythm all most sounds accordion like.
>
> Steve
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> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:40:48 -0500
> From: "Chris Michalek" <Chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] The way I see it; [and the
> rest of us]?
> To: icemanle@xxxxxxx, harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
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> >
> >---- Original Message ----
> >From: icemanle@xxxxxxx
> >To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Re: [Harp-L] The way I see it; [and the
> rest of us]?
> >Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:18:31 -0400
> >
> >>If only Chris would add "IMO" at the end of
> sentences such as "NOTES
> >and Position do not matter".
>
> I title my subject THE WAY I SEE IT
>
>
> >>
> >>I've been moved to my feet by one perfect
> sustained note played by
> >Albert Collins at a live show. I've been moved to
> tears by one
> >perfectly placed note w/gentle vibrato in a trumpet
> solo by Chet
> >Baker. I've been moved to wonderment by the one
> unexpected choice but
> >somehow perfect note played by Miles Davis in many
> of his solos.
>
> Miles was a very sloppy players and BTW thought in
> terms of colors.
> Read his books...
>
> Note choice is cultural. What you think is cool
> others around the
> world will think you're an idiot. You are reacting
> to the emotion he
> is putting into that note. Simply playing an Ab or
> Bb etc is
> meaningless without the context of shape, tone and
> color.
>
>
> Neil
> >Young still excites me with his one note choice
> solo during "Cinnamon
> >Girl".
> >>
>
> I'm homophobic so I'll stay away from that :-) IMO
> etc etc...
>
> >>Listen to the power of a well placed note in the
> harmonica playing
> >of Big Walter or Jerry Portnoy - very accessable
> stuff to any level
> >of harmonica player.
> >>
>
> Again it's the emotion. I'm willing to bet these
> guys didn't even
> know what note they were playing at the time. It's
> a coloration,
> shape etc they are using coupled with emotion.
>
>
> >>Note choice (based on knowledge of scale degree,
> relation to the
> >harmony, timing and a feel for the rhythm
> underlying) will make an
> >audience react.
> >>
>
> No Way Jose. It's delivery and in most cases
> delivery is charged by
> emotion, shape and color.
>
>
> >>Nothing wrong in thinking this through while
> learning, practicing,
> >and (gasp) even during a performance, IMO. It works
> for me and many
> >of my favorite musicians.
> >>
>
> Everything is wrong with thinking. The zone is like
> being in love. No
> thought required and it's useless anyway. Live the
> moment and feel
> good. IMO
>
>
>
> >>The Iceman
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Chris Michalek <Chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>
> >><The most important thing I have learned is people
> react to emotion
> >>and rhythm NOT note choice. Notes mean nothing and
> rhythm joined by
> >>emotion is everything. Don't believe me? Take a
> simple tune like
> >>Jingle Bells, play any note other than the correct
> note BUT play the
> >>rhythm and you along with everybody else will
> still be able to
> >>identify the song. NOTES and Position do not
> matter.>
> >>
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