Re: Subject: [Harp-L] Sniping on Ebay

["r_buschner@xxxxxxxxxxx" <r_buschner@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi all,

could we simplify that whole debate a bit?

In my opinion:

Point 1:

If you want to win the auction, you have to place the highest bid.

Point 2:

If you want to win for the least possible price, place the highest in
the last possible moment.
That way you can beat rookies, wich are known to bid step by step like
in a fever, until they have
the highest bid in the most early moment.

If you place your highest bid early, one of them will place a higher bid
very soon, no matter
how high the actual bid is. The'll do it step by step in small
increments, until they are just a 
small step above you. 
At any late time of the auction they will stop doing that, but before
they had enough time to push 
the price of the item. 
The one and only reason for sniping is to avoid this. The goal is to get
it, but to get it as cheap as possible.
Sniping helps in that.

cu,
Ralf


-----Original Message-----
> Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 07:42:29 +0200
> Subject: Re: Subject: [Harp-L] Sniping on Ebay
> From: Joel Fritz <jfritz666@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: harpl <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>

> M. Erickson wrote:
> 
> > Tell you what, the next couple of auctions you're on, watch for
> > snipe software. If it's there, you tell me if you can get that last
> > bid in. If you can, I'll buy you a beer (maybe a case of beer).
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> I'm beginning to hear the groans of a dead horse.  I think we're not
> communicating.  The way to win an auction is to have the highest bid,
> not the last bid.  If I place a bid conventionally with a maximum of
> $100 a minute or an hour before the close of the auction and no one
> else who places a bid after mine bids more than $100, I win.  The high
> bid shown on the item screen may be much lower.  The point of proxy
> bidding is that no one knows how much you're willing to bid.  If
> people exceed your current active bid, Ebay will increase it to enough
> to take the lead if you have enough in "reserve."
> 
> I'm sure I can't tell the difference between manual bidding and
> automated bidding.  There really are people who wait till five seconds
> or less before the end of an auction and bid manually.  They have the
> amount typed in and click fast.  They're better coordinated than I am.
> I'm sure I've lost auctions to them.  The reason I lost to them is
> that their max bid was higher than mine.
> 
> What I'd like to do is reassure you that sniping software doesn't give
> people an unfair advantage except in the sense that they don't have to
> be at the computer to bid.  I think it's a nice management tool.  You
> can keep track of all your watched items and know the auction results
> without firing up your browser.  It can give you an edge over people
> who never bid using the proxy system, but that's all it can do. 
> Well...when you win an auction by sniping you can get the warm fuzzy
> feeling that you can only get from doing something underhanded.  <g>
> 
> At worst, we can agree to disagree.
> 
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