Re: [Harp-L] Re: San Francisco/Amateurs and pros

["Larry L. Ravlin" <sheepdip@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I'll go for that

Larry
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From: Joe and Cass Leone <leone@xxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Re: San Francisco/Amateurs and pros


>
> On Jan 26, 2005, at 10:39 AM, larryboy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > I may have gotten out of bed on the wrong side today, but I have to
> > take a
> > contrarian position on some of the things alluded to in this thread.
> > I fully
> > agree with Richard’s enumeration of pro vs. amateur characteristics.
> > And I
> > agree with most of what everybody else has said, except, there seems
> > to be an
> > undercurrent, that amateurs should sit and watch and some how it’s ok
> > if a pro
> > puts the amateur in their place (i.e. off the stage).  This rubs me
> > the wrong
> > way.......bigtime.    If a pro wants to play with pro players only,
> > then he/she
> > should go to a “by-invitation-only” jam.  Blues jams are by their very
> > nature
> > “open”.  That means that anyone who signs up gets to play.  I have no
> > problem
> > with giving the pros more time and trying to match players of “similar”
> > abilities.  This is very hard work for the host and is often
> > overlooked by the
> > attendees eager for their time to play.  If a pro-player comes to a
> > jam, then
> > this is what he/she should expect.  The comment was made “No pro wants
> > to be
> > around anything that can needlessly embarass them in any way.....”
> > Hey guess
> > what?  No amateur wants to be needlessly embarrassed either.
> > Embarrassing
> > someone is rude behavior. There is no excuse for being rude.  Part of
> > being a
> > pro is not being rude, especially to other musicians who admire you.
> > Having
> > said that, I’ve experience much more rudeness from amateurs than any
> > pro
> > player.  An open blues jam is open.  Its not anybody’s private party.
> >  But
> > these jams are the primary venue for new players to work with other
> > musicians.
> > After woodshedding, its time to see what you can do in a live
> > environment.
> > Everyone should check their ego at the door.
> >
> > Best Regards to All,
> >
> > Larry Boy Pratt
> > www.parkhousejam.com
> >
>
>   You read my mind (again).... :)
>
> Which bring up two questions: # 1  Why the hell would a pro be
> embarrassed by something someone ELSE did?
> # 2  What is a pro doing at an 'open' jam, if they understand the
> set-up?
>
> )*(
>
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