Re: [Harp-L] Re: Open Jams



Well, Mike has a point on the gig in York, PA. I have visited them a couple times, unfortunately Mike's lead was sick the night Nate Myer's band, the Aces, sat in and he missed a great performance by them with yours truly for our 2-3 songs during the one night hosting by Daine Paul Russell.

With the other Jam, I really appreciate all the feedback we are getting and I am honestly hoping to help Mike out by hosting this jam a couple nights a week and will use a lot of the input you have given me here at harp-l. Tonight our jam has to be worth going to as we have 2 harp-l'ers passing through from the action in Kansas and two musicians from Mississippi on their way to an east coast gig and I hope that we can show them a good time and show some appreciation for their music as well.

I just hope in the current mess of things we don't embaress ourselves by acting like high schoolers. Well since the harp-l'ers are coming i best go set up my amp, show starts in a little over an hour.

Merx


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Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Re: Open Jams
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On Aug 25, 2005, at 12:14 PM, icemanle@xxxxxxx wrote:


This is a good idea, but try to have the host band limit their set to 1/2 hr or so, just to warm up the room.

I've been to too many jams where the bar was full of jammers waiting to play and the host band plays 45 min - hour, takes a 20 minute break and then begins the jamming.

I'm involved with 2 jams. The one my band host as the house band and the one Merx mentioned. The town were my band host the jam is more of a rock musician town then blues. The quality of the local players that come into the bar is pretty bad. Some are rank beginners on their instrument. Week after week we back up new guitarists wanting to play either Red House <snore> or some Allman Bros. tune they aren't qualified to play given their limited ablility.


Luckily some of our blues playing friends make the trek and help to keep the sit-ins from being a total train wreck.
While we have managed to fill up the bar/restaurant on a monday night over the past 8 months I'm starting to notice patrons leaving when it comes time to call up jammers. On average there are maybe 4-6 jammers and about 60 patrons. The quality of the product tends to drop when the locals sit in. We do play the first set then call the jammers up for the last hour. It's only a 3 hour gig. In our situation, most of the people are there to hear us rather then hear the jammers.

Remember, the jammers are not really there to hear the host band. The jammers only get 2 - 3 songs to show their stuff, too.

Actually they should be there to hear us. :-) We try to give everyone at least 2 songs but we cut it short if they make a mess of it or invite them to come back the following week if they are good.


As with any jam the musicians should know the music that is being offered. It's not a showcase for their ego or to show off to their friends.

However, if there is no one there yet, the host band fills the hole.
Also, have the host band be ready to call up the jammers as soon as they finish instead of taking a 20 minute break and then calling up the jammers.



Now the other jam is one I use to host for the local blues society. It has been in existence since 1997. We had to move from our old location last fall due to hurricane related flooding. The new home is based at a 40 et 8 club which is a vets social club. It is open to the public on thursday nights when we host the jam.


Things have gotten way out of hand since the move with both musicians and audience attendance. Since the social club is on a large piece of property in the woods musicians and audience spill out onto the porch to drink, socialize and hear the music. Unfortunately musicians starting to show up from nowhere. Mostly horn players. There are more players then we can arrange groups so some guys get cut while others get bumped.

It has become a very complicated mess with rookie players, pro divas/ guitar gods and not enough of some players and too many of others.
I pushed to have the host finally get paid after doing it on and off for free for 8 years.


The problem will be solved but I'm afraid some musicians will have to be cut from the jam to make room for those that really know how to and want to play the music we support which is blues.

mike
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