Re: fwd, eldorado caddilac, the real story, really!

[scott <checker758@xxxxxxxxx>]

Two apologies (for the price of one):
 
Sorry about sending the note below from my not-subscribed-to-the-harp-l e-mail account, rather than my usual e-mail account.  This caused the list administrator the trouble of manually forwarding it to the list.  My apologies to the list administrator.
 
Also sorry about adding even more (slightly) inaccurate info regarding dates and years to the discussion.  Now that I'm home and have access to my references, I see that Jimmy Reed recorded his version version of "I Ain't Got You" on July 18th, 1955.  This version sat on the shelf unreleased until it was included on the Jimmy Reed LP "Found Love" in 1960.
 
Billy Boy Arnold's "hit" version of "I Ain't Got You" was recorded in October of 1955, and released very shortly thereafter as Vee Jay single VJ-171.  
 
A note for trivia buffs: the same pianist and drummer (Henry Gray and Earl Phillips) played on both the Billy Boy Arnold and Jimmy Reed recordings of "I Ain't Got You".
 
Scott
 
 
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> I don't normally do this because it's confusing but here goes.
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> <scottd@xxxx> originating poster
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> I just came across this thread, and followed the responses with
> interest, but stayed out of it, thinking that someone would eventually
> come up with a correct answer.  But since it seems to be getting more
> confused rather than more clear, here are the facts as I understand
> them.
> 
> "I Ain't Got You" WAS written by a guy named Calvin Carter, but this
> Calvin Carter had nothing to do with soul singer Clarence Carter.  This
> Calvin Carter was the brother of Vee Jay Records founder Vivian Carter,
> and worked for his sister as a producer/A&R man.  "A&R" means "artists
> and repertoire", and in the "repertoire" part of his job, he wrote or
> co-wrote a lot of material that was recorded by Vee Jay artists.  (Some
> would say that in this capacity, he may have also simply put his name
> on some existing material that was brought to him by prospective Vee
> Jay artists, but that's an entirely separate issue.)
> 
> Jimmy Reed recorded Carter's composition "I Ain't Got You" c. 1954, but
> Vee Jay did not release it.  Because Carter apparently felt the song
> had potential, he then presented it to Billy Boy Arnold when Arnold
> first recorded for Vee Jay c. 1956.  This time, Vee Jay DID release it,
> and it became a local hit for Billy Boy.  Vee Jay released the Jimmy
> Reed recording of the song LATER, even though it was recorded earlier.
> 
> A few years later, the Yardbirds apparently picked up on the "hit"
> version of the song by Billy Boy Arnold, and changed the words around
> to suit themselves, since they probably didn't know what "Goldblatt's"
> was either.  And of course "Eldorado Cadillacs" weren't sold, or very
> well known, in England.
> 
> (Disclaimer - I'm not at home now so I can't check any reference
> sources, but I'mm pretty sure this info is accurate.)
> 
> Scott
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