Re: 59 Bassman LTD-57 Twin
- Subject: Re: 59 Bassman LTD-57 Twin
- From: PL500@xxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 20:24:54 EST
In a message dated 2/28/04 10:33:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, jkally3@xxxxxxx
writes:
Just a couple of things. The 59 twin used P12N speakers, not P12R (
the N was the heavier duty speaker; I think you'd blow a pair of P12Rs
in that amp); I don't recall what the low power ones had originally
but I think maybe the same (I do have a clone of that amp, but with a
single rectifier and it has P12R Webers. I'm surprised Fender did the
dual rectifier again, as it seems to be close to a solid state
rectifier; everyone I know that had the earlier two rectifier bassmans
pulled one of these out). And transformers for the original Twins and
Bassmans came from the same company, and were made thein the same
manner although the one for the high power twin was made to run the
four power tubes at something like 80 watts so was bigger. I used to
own a real one of these, and a clone, I felt like they were too loud
for the places I was playing (and the real one was so valuable, I sold
it off. Those things are going for around 10K now).
The part about the difference between the current bassman RI
transformers and the old ones is correct, they run quite a bit higher
voltages than the originals. I found that replacing the one in my RI
bassman with a copy of an old one with correct specs made a difference
in sound.
Indeed,
I am surprised Fender reissued the dual rectifier Twin as well. My choice
would have been to reissue the Tweed Twin (With an option to have a 15" in the
amp in place of the 2- 12's). I think their release of a new 85 watt Twin with a
15" is a great idea especially for guitar players (I am curious how this
would sound for harp). The RI Bassman is not really Bassman in any way except for
name and speaker set up. The transformers are different, the cabinet is
different, as well as the circuitry in the amp is different. It is still a solid
harp amp (Jason Ricci and Carlos Deljunco will attest to that). I owned one (
which I think Jason has now) and it was a solid amp for its size. My personal
belief is if you want the Bassman sound, get the Victoria. It's a s close to a
Bassman as you are probably going to get and it sounds phenomenal.
Andrew
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