RE: [Harp-L] re: was Juke, now is groove

["HIH Jervis Groeneveld" <harmonica@xxxxxxxxx>]

It was a message on this harp-list that made me buy a book called "The art
of shuffle". So following the great discussions on Juke and the  importance
of the rhythm section I have this question: is there any instruction
material dealing with GROOVE specifically? 
I know, you got to feel it rather than explain it, and groove is everywhere
(not only in shuffle), and yes I do think I feel the groove but still the
question remains: is there any instruction material dealing with GROOVE
specifically? (so although I'm always interested in all your great shares
and views on this concept, the aim of this post is just a simple NO or YES
(with the name of the publication))
Thanks,
keep on groovin'
Jervis Groeneveld
Mijehof 271
1106 HH Amsterdam.
(+31) 20 774 8657 (home)
(+31) 6 4231 3333 (cell)

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: harp-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:harp-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] Namens Bob
Maglinte
Verzonden: zondag 8 augustus 2004 16:41
Aan: rainbowjimmy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Onderwerp: Re: [Harp-L] re: was Juke, now is rhythm section


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <rainbowjimmy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 9:55 AM
Subject: [Harp-L] re: was Juke, now is rhythm section


Hi,
What Jimmy is referring to as "the beat," what he really is referring to is
THE GROOVE, and too many harp players (and people who play other instruments
for that matter) mindlessly playing their few licks they know all the time
without paying enough attention to the groove and too often what they're
playing, rather than working WITH it, which is what you want to do, often
are (often unaware of the fact that they're doing it) FIGHTING the groove,
which is NOT what to do. You need to listen to music with "BIGGER EARS,"
meaning that you listen to each and EVERY minute detail in a VERY
concentrated, careful way, which is MUCH different than the way the average
music fan listens to music, which usually is the solo, then the vocals, and
really not much more than that. Like much of African American musics from
Jazz, Dixieland, thru hiphop, etc., Blues is played BEHIND the beat and off
the 2, which allows for fewer notes needed to be played, having more space
happening, and it allows the rhythm section to carry everything, giving the
vocalist or the soloist a rock solid foundation to work with, and developing
an understanding of rhythm and groove is IMPORTANT, and players who have
this together, even if you erase the rhythm section, you can feel an
underlying sense of groove happening in what they're playing. Overall,
Jimmy's post is on the money.

Sincerely,
Barbeque Bob Maglinte
Boston, MA
http://www.barbequebob.com
MP3's: http://music.mp3lizard.com/barbequebob/



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