Re: Positions

["Mike Curtis" <ironmancurtis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Positions are not the same as modes.  That's why no one else includes modes
in positional charts.  They don't belong there.

If we play ANY mode in G on a C harp (any of the various majors and minors,
diminished, etc.), it's 2nd position.

It's sometimes convenient to associate positions with modes, but it's also
inaccurate.

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: <WLeeLewis@xxxxxxx>
To: "harp-l" <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 12:43 PM
Subject: Positions


>
> In a message dated 6/27/03 5:56:29 AM Central Daylight Time,
> ironman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
> << For example, I sometimes play Harlem Nocturne in 2nd position (I always
use
>  a C harp, so this is G minor). >>
>
> Every time I think I'm making progress on this positions thing, I get
> completely confused.
>
> Now, second position on a C harp is G Major which corresponds with the
Circle
> of Fifths.  Similarly, following the Circle of Fifths, and recognizing
that
> the relative minor is the sixth degree of the specified key:
>
>       Position        Major Key                Relative Minor  Mode
>          1st            C Major                    A Minor
Ionian
>          2nd           G Major                    E Minor
Mixolydian
>          3rd            D Major                    B Minor
Dorian
>          4th            A Major                    F# Minor
Aeolian
>          5th            E Major                    C# Minor
Phrygian
>          6th            B Major                    G# Minor
Locrian
>          7th            F# Major/Gb Major     Eb Minor          Lydian
>          8th            Db Major/C# Major     Bb Minor
>          9th            Ab Major                   F Minor
>        10th            Eb Major                   C Minor
>        11th            Bb Major                   Gb Minor
>        12th            F Major                     Db Minor
>
> I hope this chart translates well on your e-mail and I hope it is correct.
I
> threw  in the Modes for good measure, although I haven't really figured
that
> out yet.  I'm working on it.
>
> My confusion arises out of the discussion relating to minor keys.  There
is
> so much said about a specific position being in a minor key.  That doesn't
> translate in my mind because it is in both a minor and a major key.
>
> Perhaps the answer lies in the ease of playing the minor as opposed to the
> major key.
>
> Any simple enlightenment out there?
>
> Lee Lewis
> Jackson MS
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