RE: [Harp-L] Circle of Fifths (Circle of Fourths) and Positions

[Buck Worley <boogalloo@xxxxxxx>]

I learned it as 'The Order Of Sharps and Flats'. BEAD-GCF. Left to right = order of sharps; right to left = order of flats. If I have sheet music then using the names of lines and spaces on the treble cleff EGBDF and FACE to determine key
Sharps: key=1 half step above the last sharp to the right (if last # to the right is A# [or Bb) then key = B)
Flats:2nd flat from the right = the key
This works for me and then I choose my harmonica for position and mode.

> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 11:23:11 +1100
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Circle of Fifths (Circle of Fourths) and Positions
> From: rickdempster33@xxxxxxxxx
> To: jeffery.degregorio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> CC: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> 
> Jeff; I taught my sons 'bead' (as in the things that are on a necklace or
> the particles of sweat while you practice) and then GCF (whatever
> suits...'good christian fellowship' is one from my youth)
> Then all you have to do is the same with a flat: BbEbAbDb Gb Cb.....but 'C
> flat' is B, so after the Gb you are back at the beginning; BEAD GCF
> The cycle of 5ths is something I learned painlessl; If you know what key
> all your harps play in 2nd position, then you know the cycle (ie a C plays
> in G, a D in A, an A in E etc etc hence:
> CGDAEBF#(Gb)C#(Db)G#(Ab)D#(Eb)A#(Bb)F which brings us to C. That's in 5ths,
> whereas the BEADGCF sequence is the revers, in 4ths.
> RD
> 
> 
> On 17 December 2013 10:06, Degregorio, Jeff <
> jeffery.degregorio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Good day...
> > About 3 years ago, someone on this forum had a very nice circle of fifths
> > that could be cut out and (with those anchor pins we used long ago in
> > school) attached a top sheet and bottom sheet together to get a laminated
> > turning circle of fifths.  I have misplaced the one I had for a few years
> > recently and want to reprint this tool.  If anyone recalls this or has one
> > that can be (parts) laminated and "pinned" together with directions, that
> > would be great.  I remember that it had many aspects to it and it was very
> > useful.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Jeff
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: harp-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:harp-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of harp
> > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 4:44 PM
> > To: Dean Liu; Bob Cohen; Forum SPAH
> > Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Circle of Fifths (Circle of Fourths) and Positions
> > Importance: High
> >
> > Thank you.  These are great.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > On 12/16/13, 1:02 PM, "Dean Liu" <tliu10@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >These two little easy-to-remember mnemonic are based on the fact that
> > >the more one studies the CoF, the more hidden knowledge of music notes
> > >one discovers.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Major starts at ³11 o¹clock² -
> > >
> > >
> > >Fifth Circle Goes Deeper And Ever Better; [Flat] goes(Gb=F#) deeper and
> > >ever better
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Minor start at ³8 o¹clock²-
> > >
> > >Fifth Circle Goes Deeper And Ever Better; [Sharp] fifth circle goes
> > >deeper and (A#=Bb)Š
> > >
> > >
> > >Dean
> > >
> > >
> > >> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Circle of Fifths (Circle of Fourths) and
> > >> Positions
> > >> From: bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 10:43:41 -0500
> > >> To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Dec 16, 2013, at 9:32 AM, harp <harp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Does anyone have a mnemonic they use to remember the Circle of Fifths?
> > >>
> > >> Also stolen from the Internet:
> > >>
> > >> Children, Go, Dancing, After, Eating, Battered, Fish (and) Chips
> > >>(Sharps)
> > >> Children, Find, Bears, Exciting, And, Deer, Great, Chums (Flats)
> > >>
> > >> Minor keys I use:
> > >> All, Elephants, Bounce, For, Cheetah, Gorilla, Deer (Sharps)
> > >> Afterwards, Dear, Gorilla, Cheetah, Find, Bouncing, Elephants (Flats)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Bob Cohen
> > >> Writer, Internet Consultant, Teacher
> > >> w: bobjcohen.com
> > >> t: #itsabobworld
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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