Re: [Harp-L] Re: Harp-L Digest, Vol 109, Issue 83

["mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yes that's right Ice

Mike Wilbur 


On Sep 27, 2012, at 12:39 PM, The Iceman <icemanle@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> Here's the interesting thing about Miles.....
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> his trumpet playing remained the same (once he found his unique voice)...it was the music that he surrounded it with that he constantly altered.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Angelo Adamo <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: harp-l <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2012 11:37 am
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Re: Harp-L Digest, Vol 109, Issue 83
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> That's right, Mike!
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> But it seems to me that everything you are saying goes much beyond the  
> technical problem we was talking about.
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> Miles did a more complex artistical path than other musicians and this  
> compelled him to find new way of expressing himself.
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> This means new languages, which means also a new jazz phraseology,  
> always evolving with his life experience.
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> In every case, if you know well how to move fingers on your trumpet,  
> you can change you language every time you need to do it.
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> I can't speak a good english. This means that my eloquence technic  
> isn't so good.
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> I can express few, poor concepts and I do this using always the same  
> bundle of words.
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> Instead you can talk very, very much better than me and this permits  
> you to let me understand, but also permits you to talk with a child  
> and with a university teacher.
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> So, you have a great english technic. The one I don't have.
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> To me, playing is the same matter of speaking.
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> I can play only few notes and by them it's very difficult for me to  
> give you many emotions.
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> Shakespeare can say whatevere he wants, he can be simple or  
> complicated, and he can give you always emotions.
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> That's the difference
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> Angelo
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> Il giorno 27/set/12, alle ore 15:40, mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ha scritto:
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>> Angelo
>> That's right if there ever was a Jazz Artist  that had a long and  
>> unusual growth history it would have been Miles Davis.
>> Coming from the elevated class, father of  a St. Louis Dentist ,was  
>> not " born of the ghetto "
>> As many of his mentors or peers...
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>> That and the long journey he made as a musician to become  " Miles "  
>> gives another kind of Cred ....Miles earned this long notes and  
>> pregnant pauses.
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>> Anyone that remembers when " Bitches Brew " was cut, he took a lot  
>> of heat for " going
>> Psychedelic "
>> Jazz people thought Miles had jumped ship but really, Miles was  
>> taking command !
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>> Well that's my read on Miles Davis for what its worth.
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>> Mike Wilbur
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>> On Sep 27, 2012, at 8:59 AM, Angelo Adamo <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
>> wrote:
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>>> I'd like to say something about playng few/many notes.
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>>> I think that everything is good when comes from a choice.
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>>> If you talk about Miles Davis and his "few notes poetry", don't  
>>> forget that this phase of his artistic history was the natural  
>>> prosecution of a path started in the 1940s.
>>> At that time, he was playing be bop with Charlie Parker and all the  
>>> great names of that epoch.
>>> What I'm trying to say is that if Miles decided later to play few,  
>>> long notes, he was doing that because he felt that as the right  
>>> thing to do; he managed hi solos this way because he preferred  
>>> those few to a forest of notes.
>>> But, if he would, he could play the forest...
>>> Being an artist of that level to me means also that you know so  
>>> well your instrument and the music that you can prefer something to  
>>> some other thing, being not the slave of your instrument and of the  
>>> genre you are playing.
>>> This way, emotions can flow freely, regardless how many notes you  
>>> decide to use in expressing yourself.
>>> 
>>> Angelo Adamo
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> Dott. Angelo Adamo
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> Il giorno 27/set/12, alle ore 15:40, mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ha scritto:
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>> Angelo
>> That's right if there ever was a Jazz Artist  that had a long and  
>> unusual growth history it would have been Miles Davis.
>> Coming from the elevated class, father of  a St. Louis Dentist ,was  
>> not " born of the ghetto "
>> As many of his mentors or peers...
>> 
>> That and the long journey he made as a musician to become  " Miles "  
>> gives another kind of Cred ....Miles earned this long notes and  
>> pregnant pauses.
>> 
>> Anyone that remembers when " Bitches Brew " was cut, he took a lot  
>> of heat for " going
>> Psychedelic "
>> Jazz people thought Miles had jumped ship but really, Miles was  
>> taking command !
>> 
>> Well that's my read on Miles Davis for what its worth.
>> 
>> Mike Wilbur
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>> On Sep 27, 2012, at 8:59 AM, Angelo Adamo <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'd like to say something about playng few/many notes.
>>> 
>>> I think that everything is good when comes from a choice.
>>> 
>>> If you talk about Miles Davis and his "few notes poetry", don't  
>>> forget that this phase of his artistic history was the natural  
>>> prosecution of a path started in the 1940s.
>>> At that time, he was playing be bop with Charlie Parker and all the  
>>> great names of that epoch.
>>> What I'm trying to say is that if Miles decided later to play few,  
>>> long notes, he was doing that because he felt that as the right  
>>> thing to do; he managed hi solos this way because he preferred  
>>> those few to a forest of notes.
>>> But, if he would, he could play the forest...
>>> Being an artist of that level to me means also that you know so  
>>> well your instrument and the music that you can prefer something to  
>>> some other thing, being not the slave of your instrument and of the  
>>> genre you are playing.
>>> This way, emotions can flow freely, regardless how many notes you  
>>> decide to use in expressing yourself.
>>> 
>>> Angelo Adamo
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> Dott. Angelo Adamo
> ____________________
> Via delle Borre 11, 40131
> Bologna
> info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Skype: a.adamo
> +39 347 5131843
> ____________________
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