Re: [Harp-L] Modes, keys and positions (zeroth)

["Doug" <mr4chnt@xxxxxxxxx>]

"Zeroth" is a real word ( I now know ) and here is entry form an online dictionary:
    Main Entry: ze·roth 
    Pronunciation: \'ze-(?)roth, 'zir-(?)oth\
    Function: adjective 
    Date: 1896
    : being numbered zero in a series; also : zero 1 <the zeroth power of a number>

Doug H

PS - I hope all the accents etc come thru OK.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Doug 
  To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Modes, keys and positions (zeroth)


  12th position is actually zeroth position, or using the numerical notation, 0th position.  (should that be spelled "zeroeth"???)

  Doug H 

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: John F. Potts 
    To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:05 PM
    Subject: [Harp-L] Modes, keys and positions (John F. Potts)


    John Kerkoven writes,

      There's just one detail, which is that 12th pos. is not a fifth  
    higher than
    6th, but a flat fifth higher. Relating modes to fifths works ~almost~
    perfectly.

    John.

    12th Position is a fifth higher than 11th position, but since 11th  
    position does not correspond to a mode, I left it out of my previous  
    post, just like I left out positions 7 through 10, which also do not  
    correspond to modes.  Btw, Howard Levy also calls 12th position  
    “first flat” position because (although it is the last position if  
    you proceed clockwise around the Circle of Fifths), it is the FIRST  
    position if you move COUNTERCLOCKWISE around the Circle of Fifths. If  
    you go counterclockwise, the Circle of Fifths becomes the Circle of  
    Fourths.

    Anyway, relating POSITIONS to fifths works perfectly, not almost  
    perfectly.  You just have to include the positions I left out when  
    you count.

    Best regards,

    JP

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