Subject: [Harp-L] My Misty and Warren "whitebread" Bee
Chris...I had no idea you were the one who made the comment about Warren's
playing. He did make it clear the comment was personal and private and never
divulged his friend's name....and again, he made sure we knew the comment was
from a friend, not just a list member putting in their two cents to be
thought of as 'knowledgeable'.
(Apologies for my comments always seeming late out of the gate, but I get
the list in Digest form, and am still dealing with a shoulder fracture..making
it tough to type)....
Knowing it was you makes it even more clear that your critique was done in
absolute honesty and taken out of context, somewhat...probably my fault since
from someone else it might have meant something entirely different. I was
only a tiny bit concerned that he might take it negatively despite his
protestations, so was hastening to assure him how much I enjoyed his playing of this
song...
But coming from you, it means exactly what you meant it to mean, and I know
he hasn't reacted negatively at all. ;) I've gotten to know you well enough
to know your language/phrasing may be a tad 'unusual' at times to others who
don't get you, but your heart is pure and your honesty above reproach..
calling it as you always see it, especially when it comes to music and musicians.
I understand your hearing the differences in Warren's blues playing
(especially when he really lets loose in a Spah blues jam), compared to what he did
in this recording. I had the luxury of hearing him play Misty to a couple of
different backing tracks here at my home when he was still feeling a trifle
tentative about this 'new direction'. I especially enjoy that he has no fear
of trying out different genres though, playing all kinds of music for all
kinds of audiences and doesn't limit himself to being solely a 'blues' guy,
despite his love for blues. He's someone after your own heart (mine too).
The world of music is so huge...why NOT explore it?..so I truly appreciate
your take on that...as well as the idea that one should listen to other
instruments rather than restricting oneself to always copying other harmonica
players' licks. Warren has a completely unique approach to playing, doing
everything pretty much differently than anyone else I know...something that I
especially appreciate.
After a second listen to the recording, I can definitely hear the difference
if only in his 'more carefully' choosing his notes/direction, which doesn't
at all take away from the sweetness and melodiousness of his playing (which
we most definitely agree on). 'Blues' Warren is just a wee bit of a different
cat from 'Jazz' Warren, if only in his professionalism and control ;)
It's an accomplished, polished performance I'd be very happy to have in my
repertoire, and I'm very glad he's trying out this new direction since it's
where I'm headed too, even if 'only' on chromatic. Since he's practically a
neighbour, hopefully he can give me some pointers when we next get together.
Elizabeth
Message: 4
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 08:48:08 -0700
From: Buddha <groovygypsy@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Harp-L] whitebread Warren Bee
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My comment is being taken and judged out of context. It needs to be
understood that I made that comment to Warren privately and the
"white" comment was a direct comparison to HOW HE PLAYS NORMALLY. It
wasn't like I was judging his "color" compared to anybody else or even
other renditions of the same song. The comment never meant that I
think his playing is that way in general.
The conversation went something like this...
Warren - "What do you think of this?"
Buddha - "It's good but a little white for you."
All music aside, Warren Bachman is one of the more exceptional persons
I have ever met. Few of you will ever meet/know a more genuine and
heartfelt person. If we all had a little bit of Warren in us, the
world would be a better place.
******
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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:40:34 -0700
From: Buddha <groovygypsy@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Harp-L] re: my misty and Warren "whitebread" Bee
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Naw, I meant it when I said he sounded "white". However, I saw that
when I compare him to how I've heard him play in person. Warren
"Whitebread" Bee is one of the most sweet and soulful players I've
heard. The clip sounded great but more "heady" than I know him to be.
I love Warren's playing and his version of Misty is no exception it
just didn't seem as emotional and deep as his other stuff.
I never meant I thought Whitebread Bee was a "White player" in
general. That's a label reserved for guys like me who pretend to play
blues.
Elizabeth wrote:
"Perhaps that's what your friend meant, just phrased it badly?"
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 13:33:56 -0400
From: Joe and Cass Leone <leone@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] whitebread Warren Bee
To: Buddha <groovygypsy@xxxxxxxxx>
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On Sep 14, 2008, at 11:48 AM, Buddha wrote:
> My comment is being taken and judged out of context. It needs to be
> understood that I made that comment to Warren privately and the
> "white" comment was a direct comparison to HOW HE PLAYS NORMALLY.
I think most all of us understood where you were coming from. Anyone
who didn't? Well, that's a shame :)
> It
> wasn't like I was judging his "color" compared to anybody else or even
> other renditions of the same song. The comment never meant that I
> think his playing is that way in general.
>
> The conversation went something like this...
> Warren - "What do you think of this?"
> Buddha - "It's good but a little white for you."
>
> All music aside, Warren Bachman is one of the more exceptional persons
> I have ever met.
Hear hear
> Few of you will ever meet/know a more genuine and
> heartfelt person.
Can I get an amen brothers & sisters
> If we all had a little bit of Warren in us, the
> world would be a better place.
Wow, I LIKE that.
smo-joe
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