Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Countdown to SPAH/ Dave Payne/Splash Nostalgia



Like SmoJoe, I've quite resigned myself to always having to fly wherever  
Spah is going to be...coming from New York, so those of you who 'have to'  
actually fly for just one convention out of half a dozen, shouldn't complain too  
much.  Out of 9 I've attended now...the only one in my own backyard and  
reasonably affordable was the GSHC in New Jersey..and that's still a close to 3  hour 
drive from my home on Long Island.  
 
While I could imagine New York could put on an insanely vibrant and  exciting 
convention, it would probably just not be cost effective for  the majority of 
attendees to get to....so I've accepted having to  keep saving up my pennies 
for Buckeye and Spah and shutting up about just  how much it costs me twice a 
year for my plane fare (following a  minimum two-hour drive to LaGuardia if 
i'm lucky enough timing-wise to have  someone drive me, otherwise it'd be 
another $100 each way for an 'airport limo')  as well as the Hotel, and the 
convention itself (the smallest part of the  cost).  It's all worth it.  Jimmy 
(Gordon), George (Brooks) are coming  from Vermont..even further up and more remote 
than Long Island...I imagine even  tougher to fly out from....so how can I 
complain?
 
I remember hearing about the days of people hanging out at the conventions  
with one pair of jeans and one t-shirt, unshaven for the entire time. Uh-uh,  
guys.  Won't 'quite' work, today (at least for the majority).  Today  there are 
so many people with whom you're upcloseandpersonal, that approach  won't be 
overly appreciated ;).  So despite the airlines cracking down on  luggage, even 
the lightest packer should bring at least one washable change of  clothing.  
Then there's the Saturday night banquet, if you're planning to  attend it.  
Most people dress up, some even in major suits and gowns!   You don't have to go 
that far, of course.. but neat and clean is definitely de  rigeur.
 
A lot of people have (a bit pointedly) asked me how I can 'afford' to keep  
going to this many conventions and indulging in this new hobby of mine, with 
the  assumption that the only people who can do so must, therefor, be  'rich'.  
For my part, unlike my siblings and many of my friends, I've  never felt the 
need or desire to dress in designer clothes or own major  diamonds...didn't 
travel round the world for major vacations (our trips  were by car to Florida to 
visit my parents)...  a couple of 'big'  vacations to Arizona (combined with 
business trips) because the Canyon is a  dream and calls to me ;)
 
...never felt the need to have a new car every year ..my newest vehicle is  
now 15 years old and still going strong (quite proud of that fact)    ;)...  
didn't own all the 'toys' as soon as they came out...have only just  bought the 
first HDTV and it's by no means the biggest one.  My  first IPod (still in its 
package) was my last birthday gift, and actually  considered a 'harmonica' 
peripheral...since I really want to download  my jazz/class rock CD backing 
tracks onto it to play over. 
 
 So now I'm reaping the benefits of having been reasonably thrifty for  so 
long...I get to go to harmonica conventions and soak up all the sounds,  sights 
and larnin' ...and indulging my relatively new hobby of HAS... and  enjoying 
every second of it.  And why not?  Can't take it with  me...and, if not now, 
when?
 
I absolutely dig these great stories from Dave Payne and Scott about their  
childhoods ...making money to acquire harmonicas.  Since I gave up playing  at 
exactly the wrong age (14), I lost out on the wealth of harmonica knowledge  
here in the States I simply never knew was available for me.  It makes  me 
nostalgic and a bit sad not to have that same background in harmonica,  feeling 
I'm always playing 'catch-up'.  Clearly I'll never be the kind of  musician most 
of you will, primarily because you've had so many years to  have it become 
ingrained and 'natural'.  But I'm game to keep trying...and  that's a great part 
of what makes it all so much fun, now.
 
Elizabeth
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 01:19:55 -0400
From: Joe and Cass  Leone <leone@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Countdown to SPAH
To:  "Mick Zaklan" <mzaklan@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
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Itsa nonja matter  to me forcausa Ima hafa ta go 1,245.78  miles justa  
bouta any way  Ima cut or slice it.

:)      Gieuseppi al fumare

On  Aug 2, 2008, at 8:02 PM, Mick Zaklan wrote:

>    Hey, I  don't argue that the West Coast doesn't deserve to host a  
>  SPAH
> convention.  I think it will generate a whole new crop  conventioneers,
> people we've never seen at these things.  And  hopefully a bunch of new
> entertainers, guys like Rod Piazza and Gary  Smith who live around  
> there.
> Maybe master harmonica  repairman Bill Romel will come over from  
> Vegas for a
>  visit.  All sorts of wonderful possibilities.  I know we're   
> probably missing
> a lot of great local players by basing the  convention in the  
> Midwest all the
> time.  I don't  disagree with Dave Payne, either.  A Southern  
> convention  and
> an East Coast convention are overdue, though we did have a  memorable
> Memphis SPAH gathering some years back.
>
> Mick  Zaklan
> _______________________________________________
Message: 6
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 07:30:39 -0400
From: "Splash"  <celtiac@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] was SPAH in Sacto?, now  snakes,    harps and an Elk
RIver childhood
To:  "Harp L Harp L" <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Pretty interesting,  Dave.

We had a guy down on Tamiami Trail who bought snakes and other  wildlife we
used to sell him stuff.  But we did go after the vipers and  other poisonous
critters.  He paid good.  $100 for a rattler, $75  for a cottonmouth or water
moccasin.  He kept asking us to get him some  coral snakes but they were too
tough to catch and too deadly.  We stayed  away from them.  $200 for Indigo's
(not poisonous) cuz they were pretty  rare.  And depending on the type $50 or
up for scorpions and  tarantulas.  Jones Zoo, the place was called.  He had a
snake pit  full of all kinds of pisonous snakes and he would walk around in
there. Bill  Haast and him were buddies, I think.  The Miami serpentarium
would get  their venom and make anti-venom from his snakes.  It's a dam good
thing  for me too cuz I got bit by a pygmy rattler in the palm of my hand in
1968  and got 5 vials of the anti-venom and it saved my arm.

And I remember  those Blues Harps.  When they first came out they were a darn
good  harp.  I got a full set of 12.  Now that I think about it, they  cost
alot more than Marine Band and probably weren't really any better, just  had
different covers.  I might still have one or two out of that  set.  Up till
then I played mostly Marine Band and Old Standby.   They were pretty good
too.  Then Nixon came along and the tarrifs made  the price jump to $2.75 for
MBs, IIRC.  I started buying up the old  stock of Old Standby's at this music
shop downtown.  They had the  dusty-est upstairs you ever saw.  Worse than
grandmaws attic.  But  he had alot of cool old stuff up there from WWII days
and earlier.  And  all marked with prices from that same era.  Shoemaker's, I
just  remembered the name.  Shoemaker's Music.  Like a time machine in  there.

You had the Elk river.  We had the Everglades, the River of  Grass.  And a
rainy season June thru July when the lawns grew real  high.  I got $10 to mow
a lawn back then and was saving up to buy a  go-cart when Cassius Clay was
scheduled to fight Sonny Liston.  My Dad  told me that he knew where we could
get $12 to 1 bettin on this Clay fellow  and I put $10 into the family pot.
I got my go-cart!  And now, come to  think of it, I probably got my first
really good guitar because of that  Clay-Liston fight.  My dad got me a Dove
guitar for my birthday that  year.

I didn't start playing harmonica till a year or two  later.

And nobody ever told me that catching snakes was poaching.   We knew that
gators and wild hogs were, but they taste too good not to get  one every now
and then.

Sounds like we have similar stories.  I  think I drove everybody crazy
playing Train-Time after Wheels of Fire came  out.  And I still don't have
that special vibratto down like Alan Wilson  used to do on that first Canned
Heat album.  How the heck did he do  that?


What good is a dream if it doesn't come  true?
PEACE
Scott
Believe in Magic!
----- Original Message  -----
From: "David Payne" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Harp L  Harp L" <harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 12:32  AM
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] was SPAH in Sacto?, now snakes,harps and an Elk  RIver
childhood


> I'm pretty sure SPAH is gonna be near my  hometown of Elkview West Virginia
next year at my alma mater, Herbert Hoover  High School. It's the only place
on Elk River where you can put an event,  that has an actual roof.
> Well, they oughta anyway... lol.
> When I  was growing up, there was nothing for teenagers to do on the Elk
River except  fish, play bluegrass music and smoke marijuana. Fishin' and
harmonica playin'  kept me out of trouble. I was a good boy, didn't do any of
the bad stuff..The  worst thing I did do was engage in what I later learned
was an illegal  wildlife trade when I was at Elkview Junior High, 12 years
old around 1988. I  used this ill-gained revenue to get, one by one, me a set
of harps.
> I  was just a kid, didn't realize I selling wild, live snakes was
technically  poaching and the pet store I sold them to never bothered to lift
the veil of  my ignorance on this. I'd rummage through tin piles, etc. catch
little  ringneck snakes and sell them. Ringneck snakes have no front teeth,
only rear  teeth. While their saliva is mildy venomous, like a bee sting,
it's hard for  them to get those rear teeth into your skin, although it is
possible. Other  "non-venomous" snakes with a full set of teeth would simply
tear you up and  you didn't mess with those too much, although I sold some
green snakes I'd  pull out of trees. Garter snakes were too mean to catch,
although sometimes,  you'd consider it. Black snakes were out of the
question, they act like real  a..holes, biting and whatnot. Some of my
buddies ran into copperhead vipers  on snake-catching expeditions. I don't
recall any close calls with the vipers  while catching snakes, although I
consider
>  myself lucky to have  emerged unscathed from a coiled, rattling
rattlesnake about two inches from  my ankle in some weeds once on the
riverbank..
> I'd catch the ringneck  snakes in the evening and take them to school the
next day. If you could sell  the snake at school, usually to somebody who
wanted it to put in a teacher's  desk, or turn loose in the girl's bathroom,
you could get $5 a snake. But I  wasn't the only one doing this, there were
about five of us in the snake  trade, so supply exceeded demand at school,
but the $5 a snake was a fixed  price, because of a collusive agreement among
us snake sellers. Snakes unsold  at the end of the school day could be taken
to this pet shop in the Elk  Shopping Center with a guarenteed sale of $2.50
a snake. The pet store sold  them for $15, but we didn't mind that, cause we
otherwise did not have access  to their markets, only the school snake
market.
> This went on for an  entire spring, summer and part of a fall, when the pet
shop went out of  business, we lost the safety net. The collusive agreement
had to be negated,  school snake-market forces took over and the price
dropped to $1 a snake and  we all gave up. I learned a lot about economics as
a childhood snake  poacher.
> Now the harp content, this isn't just obligatory, is what I did  with the s
nake money. I got a good allowance, I think it was $10 a week,  when I added
the snake money to that, I was a rich boy. I also mowed some  grass for $5 a
yard. One lady had a particularly large yard and I demanded  and got $6 to
mow that one.So, I could buy stuff,
> When I was selling  snakes, I was buying harps. I was pulling about $10 a
week selling  snakes,.
> Indeed. I remember at the time I had a G Old Standby.I got some  Blues
Harps (the old handmade harp, you know, the one that was good) in G, C,  A,
Bb, D, E and a Marine Band in F. Harps were more than $20 then, that's a  lot
of money for a kid that age to invest in that many harps.All  German.
> I traded something for that Marine Band, it may have even been a  snake.
The boy that had it chewed these cinnamon toothpicks all the time and  the
comb reeked of cinnamon. Every time I play an F harp, I think of how  that
harp smelled and tasted.
> Dave
>  ______________________________
> Dave Payne Sr.
> Elk River  Harmonicas
> www.elkriverharmonicas.com
>
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----
> From: Randy Sandoval  <randyharps@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> Sent:  Saturday, August 2, 2008 8:55:59 PM
> Subject: [Harp-L] SPAH in  Sacto?
>
> Can someone verify this for me? Is SPAH really going to  be in my backyard
next year?
> I was really depressed about not getting  to SPAH this year as funds ( Or
lack thereof )
> wont allow it. If so ,  you will definately see my booth there next year.
> Randy
>  http://www.genesisharmonicas.net
>  _______________________________________________



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