[Harp-L] In-line volume control
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- Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:30:59 -0700 (PDT)
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Can someone point me at the website for the in-line volume controls for harp mics. I have a killer LaFayette mic that I changed the crystal element out for a vintage Shure CM and it sure sounds great. The Lafayette is big, and the element mounts in the very back of the shell. When tight-cupped you get a HUGE sound. It has the swivel mic-stand mount on it ... I put it on a mic stand and play it that way. I love this thing, except that it needs a volume control and I don't want to drill any holes in the shell.
Thanks,
Jim McBride
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Today's Topics:
1. re: playing behind the beat (rainbowjimmy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
2. Anyone familiar w/ Suzuki SCX-64 (Kevin M. Duggan)
3. re:more on playing behind the beat (rainbowjimmy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
4. RE: Finding the Position - "Summertime" (Marc Molino)
5. re: What the...??? (Joe Mahan)
6. RE: [BluegrassHarp] Dr Banjo's view of harmonica
(Henderson, Peter)
7. Re: Texas Crude Harp Amp (AV1901@xxxxxxx)
8. Re: Finding the Position - "Summertime" (Ken Hildebrand)
9. Positions (Jonathan Ross)
10. RE: Finding the Position - "Summertime" (Mike Snowden)
11. Re: Most Amazing Harmonica Shows (fjm)
12. texas Crude (rbeetsme@xxxxxxxxxxx)
13. Know any web sites like this=??????????????????????????????
(melvyn church)
14. Re: Know any web sites like
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 05:45:25 -0500
From: rainbowjimmy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Harp-L] re: playing behind the beat
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Just about all Chicago blues is played behind the beat (most soul
music, and most reggae too). Listen to the backbeat--the two and the
four. The snare is just a hair late. Builds up anticipation. Adds some
tension and paradoxically makes everything seem laid back and cool.
Because we love that snare we give it lots of room. So the harp player
starts the riff on the one and usually plays around the back beat--dee
dee dee whap do do do whap. If you listen to a really good band like
Aretha's or the Wailers, the band plays a killer riff that somehow
fills in around the singer and the back beat without ever stepping on
them. So by playing less notes, the groove becomes much tighter and
things sound way cooler.
If you hear a rock band play blues and you think there's something
missing--you're right. Rockers have a hard time with the laid back
behind the beat groove.
Rainbow Jimmy
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 05:54:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Kevin M. Duggan"
Subject: [Harp-L] Anyone familiar w/ Suzuki SCX-64
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I am thinking of buying one,
anyone familiar with this model?
Thanks
Kevin
Kevin Dugganhttp://www.kevsblues.comhttp://www.duggan.tv
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 07:12:07 -0500
From: rainbowjimmy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Harp-L] re:more on playing behind the beat
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Here's good description of playing behind the beat, albeit from a
bassist's perspective:
http://www.basssessions.com/aug05/thebeat.html
Rainbow Jimmy
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 09:23:40 -0400
From: "Marc Molino"
Subject: RE: [Harp-L] Finding the Position - "Summertime"
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I found the full tab for Summertime (in the 4th position, "upper register")
at:
http://www.volcano.net/~jackmearl/songs/ssongs/summer_time.html
Anyone looking for variations (or free tabs of 1700+ other songs from pop to
classical), check out:
http://www.harptabs.com
(If you have the time to post tabs that would be great, too; or links from
your own website; I post there, but am not affiliated with the site in any
other way)
Is there a good online resource (or book) that explains the "positions"
better? I know what 1st & 2nd position are, but I obviously don't understand
the logic or theory behind them. I've only been playing for two months and
have been trying to learn from a number of different directions (practicing
scales, working through Jon Gindick's "Country & Blues Harmonica for the
Musically Hopeless" book--which I've actually had for probably 17+ years,
transposing sheet music to tabs to reteach myself how to read music, and
playing songs I like). Any help/recommendations is appreciated.
-Marc
From: George Brooks
To: Harp-L , Tim Moyer
Subject: [Harp-L] Finding the Position - "Summertime"
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 01:42:17 -0400
I agree with Tim Moyer that it's good to try a tune in a number of positions
to see where it lays out best and to expand one's musical reach. I usually
play Summertime in 4th position (Am on a C harp). The song lays out
perfectly without overblows or overdraws. You do have to bend accurately
for the A in the lower register (3rd hole draw bent down a whole tone). In
the upper register, you don't even need bends to play the melody. The first
three notes in this position (all blow) are 5-4-5 or 8-7-8.
I disagree with Tim, though, when he states: "There are only 2 Bs on a C
harp...." I guess you could customize a harp to have only two by blocking
hole 10 with putty, but one of the glories of the short harp is its three
octave range. Ten hole C harmonicas in standard Marine Band tuning have Bs
at 3 draw, 7 draw, and the intermediate (half-step) blow bend in hole 10.
This gives you another option for playing the song in 5th position. The
first three notes in this position in the upper register are 10 half-step
blow bend-9 blow-back to the 10 half-step blow bend. You no longer need an
overblow; instead, you have to be able to hit the 9 hole blow bend. And, of
course, the hole 10 half-step (intermediate) blow bend. Personally, I think
5 OB is an easier note and 4th a more natural position, but it's good to
stretch, and your blow bends will get stronger (they'll have to!) if you
practice the song in 5th position in the upper register.
George
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 10:02:30 -0400
From: Joe Mahan
Subject: [Harp-L] re: What the...???
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Bobbie asked:
http://www.harmonicaphones.com
Nice name, but what's the 'connection'?
Harmonica is a term commonly used to describe a telephone/network wiring block.
Just google for "harmonica wiring" to see some familiar looking shapes.
Joe
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 10:04:15 -0400
From: "Henderson, Peter"
Subject: [Harp-L] RE: [BluegrassHarp] Dr Banjo's view of harmonica
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But, at the end of the day, it's only the music
that really matters, isn't it? Whatever the kind of music, if you love
the
stuff enough you'll play it on whatever you can and, with a bit of good
taste, get on alright.
Best,
Rick
AMEN TO THAT RICK!!!!!!
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 10:42:01 EDT
From: AV1901@xxxxxxx
Subject: [Harp-L] Re: Texas Crude Harp Amp
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Ah, the Kendrick Texas Crude! I bought mine in 1995 for $1,595 plus shipping
from Gerald and have enjoyed it a great deal. It is a great medium sized amp,
putting out a loud and cutting cathode biased 35 watts (two 6L6 tubes, tube
rectifier and two 12AX7s) through a 12" Kendrick black frame speaker.
I played this amp at many a gig over the last 10 years. It is loud and has
good feedback resistance. It has 4 inputs and you can bridge the channels if
desired. Mine is in the original trapezoidal brown tweed covered cabinet with the
round slatted speaker opening - the cabinet is a work of art. It is a heavy
amp (big speaker magnet and the cabinet corners are thick). It has a wave form
symetry control (I leave it set at a single position) and a line out jack
which can be useful in large rooms/loud bands/ PA enhanced situations.
The Kendrick is the middle amp in my amp stable at the moment:
small: Hurricane V-8 (6watts 6V6 8" speaker class A Champ-like amp)
medium: 1960 Fender Vibrolux
medium: Kendrick Texas Crude
large: Sonny Jr. 410
The Kendrick is a great medium sized harp amp. Set it on a bar stool and let
'er rip.
Andy Vincent
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 08:04:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ken Hildebrand
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Finding the Position - "Summertime"
To: mike.snowden@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Mike,
I like playing 'Summertime' on a Lee Oskar Natural
Minor harp, usually a lower keyed one like an Em.
I start out on 6 blow (6B 5B 6B would sound out
SUM-ER-TIME)... You can pretty much figure it out by
ear from there... The part 'So hush little baby...
don't you cry' is played: 2D 3D 2D 3D 4B 5B 6B 5D 5B
5B 4B.
No bends, OB's, or OD'd !
I've always figured this was 1st postion on a LO NM
harp (so on an Em labeled harp, it would be Am).
Similarly, you can go right into the song "When Johnny
Comes Marching Home" (start on 3B)... I will sometimes
end "Summertime" with an ending lick from "When Johnny
Comes Marching Home".
Try it !
Ken H
--- Mike Snowden wrote:
> I've been dabbling more with a natural minor harp,
> and I got the old classic
> "Summertime" into my head I tried this a while back
> on a standard Richter,
> and I couldn't get it to work then, but this time I
> got the idea to try a
> "Natural Minor". So I picked up and played by
> ear.... Starting on 7 blow
> seems to work really quite well. If I could
> bend/overblow better, then
> starting on 4-draw potentially feels bluesier, but
> some of the steps at the
> end of the verse are much harder. I have the sheet
> music hidden away on the
> shelf, so it's there if I want to see what I've
> forgotten....
>
>
> So the question goes, what do other people use? And
> if a Standard Richter,
> what starting position works for you?
>
> Mike
>
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:14:21 -0400
From: Jonathan Ross
Subject: [Harp-L] Positions
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Marc writes:
"Is there a good online resource (or book) that explains the
"positions" better?"
I'd suggest checking out a few places. It's a bit slow loading this
morning, but G's "Harp-On Harmonica Resources" site probably has a
good description:
http://www.angelfire.com/music/harmonica/
Similarly, MyQuill's excellent site is probably a good place to start:
http://myquill.cc/
Also, there have been some excellent descriptions of this in the harp-
l archives over the years:
http://harp-l.org/pipermail/harp-l/
These should get you the answers you need. Basically, each position
follows the "circle of fifths" (a very old concept in Western music),
and can be described as such: first position is the key of the harp;
second is a fifth above that; third a fifth again higher than second;
fourth a fifth above third; etc...till you get to twelfth and return
to first position again, which is why it is called a "circle"--it is
a self-contained system (in Western 12-tone theory). MyQuill's page
has a good diagram of the circular relationship.
Hope this helps.
()() JR "Bulldogge" Ross
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:28:02 +0100
From: "Mike Snowden"
Subject: RE: [Harp-L] Finding the Position - "Summertime"
To: "Ken Hildebrand"
Cc: harp-l
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Mmm .. "When Johnny..." was the first song I just played by ear on the
natural-minor (3B start - or 7B if your ears can stand it (I have a high
Fnm)), and your keying is where I'm playing on the natural minor harp. But
does it fit too well?
Part of this exercise has been to try and evaluate whether I am
"over-fitting" things - playing a straight them at the cost of expressive
bends, etc. I've had at least 5 different ways of playing so far on the
Richter, but a couple include overblows that I can't do yet. The feel of
each one is different, depending on what you want legato, pitching, etc.
It's an excellent illustration of position. And I'm really enjoying the
samples I have received...!
I'm also really thinking for the first time about how the parallel minor
scale actually works vs a blues scale; for some reason my "guitar band"
background got me thinking in terms of majors scales, not minor, despite my
classical stuff featuring lots of minor. The blues scale is fundamentally a
minor pentatonic with a blue note added, so a minor ought to be almost more
compatible. The versatility of playing in so many different positions is
making me think hard about keys and positions, and where each position
"drops" its bends.
Thanks
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Hildebrand [mailto:airmojoken@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 22 October 2006 16:04
To: mike.snowden@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: harp-l
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Finding the Position - "Summertime"
Mike,
I like playing 'Summertime' on a Lee Oskar Natural
Minor harp, usually a lower keyed one like an Em.
I start out on 6 blow (6B 5B 6B would sound out
SUM-ER-TIME)... You can pretty much figure it out by
ear from there... The part 'So hush little baby...
don't you cry' is played: 2D 3D 2D 3D 4B 5B 6B 5D 5B
5B 4B.
No bends, OB's, or OD'd !
I've always figured this was 1st postion on a LO NM
harp (so on an Em labeled harp, it would be Am).
Similarly, you can go right into the song "When Johnny
Comes Marching Home" (start on 3B)... I will sometimes
end "Summertime" with an ending lick from "When Johnny
Comes Marching Home".
Try it !
Ken H
--- Mike Snowden wrote:
> I've been dabbling more with a natural minor harp,
> and I got the old classic
> "Summertime" into my head I tried this a while back
> on a standard Richter,
> and I couldn't get it to work then, but this time I
> got the idea to try a
> "Natural Minor". So I picked up and played by
> ear.... Starting on 7 blow
> seems to work really quite well. If I could
> bend/overblow better, then
> starting on 4-draw potentially feels bluesier, but
> some of the steps at the
> end of the verse are much harder. I have the sheet
> music hidden away on the
> shelf, so it's there if I want to see what I've
> forgotten....
>
>
> So the question goes, what do other people use? And
> if a Standard Richter,
> what starting position works for you?
>
> Mike
>
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 09:10:17 -0700
From: fjm
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Most Amazing Harmonica Shows
Cc: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
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An addendum and correction to my previous post regarding Steve Guyger
and Buckeye. He did play there in 1997 and he was backed by Rich
Yecsalis then. The 2001 appearance he was backed by his drummer, Kenny.
Thanks to my source for this additional background information. I
think I actually have a recording of the 97 appearance but so far I
can't locate it. If I recall correctly the first part of the show is
marred by some odd effects being added into the P.A. It's just the
first song or two. fjm
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:41:19 +0000
From: rbeetsme@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Harp-L] texas Crude
To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID:
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I bought the amp on ebay couple of weeks ago, still messing with it. Really loud, feeds back pretty easily with my 2 best mics, (volume at 2 and above) both have Shure CM elements. I have tried the wave form control, helps a little, but had to replace the 12AX-7 tubes with AT-7's, better but still feeds back. (Website states: Because this amp lacks the tendency to feedback, the volume control can be cranked to unbelievable levels. not my experience) Nice tone, a more focused sound than with a 4X10 amp, need more time to fully dial it in. Definitely a keeper though, worth the effort, very well built and Gerald is quick to respond to emails.
Rick
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:01:58 +0100 (BST)
From: melvyn church
Subject: [Harp-L] Know any web sites like
this=??????????????????????????????
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i would like to find out the keys/positions for various harp classics, the common, and the less so. I am fed up thinking I may have got it (nearly!!!!) on one harp, only to find it on another harp the next time. My brain is starting to hurt. Just like to look up some hard facts, and maybe find a little reassurance. Any ideas on a web site out there? I do not want to buy down loads, or find tabs, just look up tracks i already own.
All help gratefully received. Ta
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 12:22:57 -0500
From: "Joe Spiers"
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Know any web sites like
this=??????????????????????????????
To: "melvyn church"
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http://www.harmonicamasterclass.com/artist_listing.htm
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