RE: [Harp-L] harp roles in jam situations

["Allen Stratyner" <astratyner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Nick,
        I liked and agree with Mojo's comments. Rhythm on harp is a part of
what we do as musicians. Many really good harp players(especially in the
blues)play rhythm under their own lead notes.When I play acoustically with a
guitar player I'm the one playing rhythm under their solos. When I play
amplified I play rhythm too. I don't use it as much as in duo performance
because there are several other instruments capable of playing rhythm in
addition to me. If you go to a jam with your ears on, and play to enhance
rather than overwhelm no one will dis your playing. Unfprtunately there are
many harp blowers I hear today; both the talented ones who should know
better, and the novices who don't, who use a song to show off what they
know; rather than play the heart of the song.       My best,
                                                       Allen

-----Original Message-----
From: harp-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:harp-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Mojo Red
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 8:02 PM
To: Nick Kirkes; harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Harp-L] harp roles in jam situations


Hey Nick,

Jams can be very different, depending on who's on
stage at any given moment. Some guys welcome
beginners and spend time helping them find the
right musical space to occupy. Others can be kind
of cutthroat where amateur guitar players try to
see who can piss the farthest. Yuck!

In general, at jams harp ~is~ looked at as a lead
instrument and I think most people ~expect~ to hear
from it only when there's a solo break, or to open
a song. However, experienced harp players who know
how to comp and play back-rhythm without
overwhelming or muddying up the sound are generally
readily excepted, so long as the harp isn't seen as
"stepping" on anyone.

Personally, I would never say that harp is "not a
rhythm istrument" because I've been around to know
what it can do -- and I've heard Madcat Ruth play
living daylights out of rhythm harp. However, I
think the general attitude out there (at jams) is
that harp is a lead instrument.

If you know what you're doing out there, comp
away... I do it all the time and never get the cold
eye. But if you're just starting out, or you don't
know the guys you're playing with, then just wait
for your solo break

BTW, I'm in Colorado too (Broomfield). Where 'bouts
are you? I'm open to giving lessons if you want.
Contact me offlist if you're into it.

Stay well!

Harpin' in Colorado,
--Ken M.


--- Nick Kirkes <nick.kirkes@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Harp-L,
>
> I have a theory/etiquette question I'm hoping
> will spark some discussion.
> Perhaps this has been discussed before, but I'm a
> beginner so I'll hope you'll all forgive
redundancy.  I joined
> up with the Colorado Blues Society and their
online forums and
> found a post discussing jam etiquette.  I read
through the
> posts and understand most of it and found it
enlightening.  The
> last thing I want to do is piss people off while
I'm learning
> (or at any point for that matter).  However,
there was one
> comment made by the author of the post that I'm
having trouble
> absorbing.
> I'm hoping you all can help me understand what he
means.
>
> >From
> http://www.coblues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=165:
>
> "1) harmonica is not a rhythm instrument (at
> least at a jam)"
>
> I discussed this with some friends last night,
> but we all came to different
> conclusions.  In my reading and practice, one of
> the first things I do to
> learn a song is follow the bass line to get a
> feel for the song, but to me,
> that means I'm acting as part of the rhythm.  The
> author obviously realizes
> that he made a comment that not everyone would
> agree with, per his "Flame
> Away" comment, and I'm not saying he's right or
> wrong.  I'm just curious
> what other harp players might think he meant by
> it.  I just want a better
> understanding of where the harp fits in and what
> is good practice when
> sitting in with new people in a jam type
> situation.
>
> Looking forward to your responses.
>
> Nick
>



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