[Harp-L] Don G. !st pos.

[chris smith <harpshredder@xxxxxxxxx>]

   Hey there was one more comment I want to make Don
G.
you're a self -described "straight -harp " player
.Rather  than
accomodate your request (akin to" enabling" an
alcoholic) I
have to ask you why do you coose to describe yourself
this
narrow way ? Far be it from me to alter your style
since after
all it's yours and people much,much,much more famous
than
me play 1st pos.( e.g. ,Bruce Springsteen,Bob Dylan
and Neil
Young) but  these guys are all incredible songwriters
and really pretty lousy harp players.  You're writing
to a blog of harp players who I presume be generally a
few light years 
ahead of these guys (at least)  .I love Chicago style
1st pos.
blues playing but  it's really for variety that most
players use
it. The great advance in harp playing is the
development of
2nd pos. with the capability of note-bending in the
tonic chord and ,of course, as many of harp-l' s harp
maniacs will
gladly tell you.there are many other
positions,tunings, and 
chromatic harps out there. If you like playing harp.
why not
use the full palette ?
                                       Chris "Big
Mouth" Smith

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> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:27:45 -0500
> From: "Steve McIver" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Harp-L] Carey Bell , Black Eyed Peas
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> Hey gang,
> 
> 	Sittin here doing inventory listening to the above,
> Some very cool harp
> going on, rhythm all most sounds accordion like.
> 
> Steve
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> From: "Chris Michalek" <Chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Harp-L] The way I see it; [and the
> rest of us]?
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> >
> >
> >
> >---- Original Message ----
> >From: icemanle@xxxxxxx
> >To: harp-l@xxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Re: [Harp-L] The way I see it; [and the
> rest of us]?
> >Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:18:31 -0400
> >
> >>If only Chris would add "IMO" at the end of
> sentences such as "NOTES
> >and Position do not matter".
> 
> I title my subject THE WAY I SEE IT
> 
> 
> >> 
> >>I've been moved to my feet by one perfect
> sustained note played by
> >Albert Collins at a live show. I've been moved to
> tears by one
> >perfectly placed note w/gentle vibrato in a trumpet
> solo by Chet
> >Baker. I've been moved to wonderment by the one
> unexpected choice but
> >somehow perfect note played by Miles Davis in many
> of his solos.
> 
> Miles was a very sloppy players and BTW thought in
> terms of colors. 
> Read his books...
> 
> Note choice is cultural.  What you think is cool
> others around the
> world will think you're an idiot. You are reacting
> to the emotion he
> is putting into that note. Simply playing an Ab or
> Bb etc is
> meaningless without the context of shape, tone and
> color.
> 
> 
>  Neil
> >Young still excites me with his one note choice
> solo during "Cinnamon
> >Girl".
> >> 
> 
> I'm homophobic so I'll stay away from that :-) IMO
> etc etc...
> 
> >>Listen to the power of a well placed note in the
> harmonica playing
> >of Big Walter or Jerry Portnoy - very accessable
> stuff to any level
> >of harmonica player. 
> >> 
> 
> Again it's the emotion. I'm willing to bet these
> guys didn't even
> know what note they were playing at the time.  It's
> a coloration,
> shape etc  they are using coupled with emotion.
> 
> 
> >>Note choice (based on knowledge of scale degree,
> relation to the
> >harmony, timing and a feel for the rhythm
> underlying) will make an
> >audience react.
> >> 
> 
> No Way Jose.  It's delivery and in most cases
> delivery is charged by
> emotion, shape and color.
> 
> 
> >>Nothing wrong in thinking this through while
> learning, practicing,
> >and (gasp) even during a performance, IMO. It works
> for me and many
> >of my favorite musicians.
> >> 
> 
> Everything is wrong with thinking. The zone is like
> being in love. No
> thought required and it's useless anyway.  Live the
> moment and feel
> good. IMO
> 
> 
> 
> >>The Iceman
> >> 
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Chris Michalek <Chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>
> >><The most important thing I have learned is people
> react to emotion
> >>and rhythm NOT note choice. Notes mean nothing and
> rhythm joined by
> >>emotion is everything. Don't believe me?  Take a
> simple tune like
> >>Jingle Bells, play any note other than the correct
> note BUT play the
> >>rhythm and you along with everybody else will
> still be able to
> >>identify the song. NOTES and Position do not
> matter.>
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