Re: Subject: Re: [Harp-L] cheapo amp?



Hi Elizabeth... well I listened to all the advice here... then this is what I did.

I went and bought the cheapest amp I could find (I happened to find one locally at half the usual retail price).... then I bought a so-so (ShureSM58 lookalike) mike and a boom stand. The whole thing has cost me around £50 (GBP) - about $90 USD. OK, OK, OK... great it ain't. But it's ideal for what I want it for.... I can tweak with the sound.. but most of all, I can crank it up to hear myself *as others hear me*. And what I lack most, is technique - something all the best amps in the world can't give me.... this set up lets me *hear* what I'm doing from outside... not 'in my head' and the mike being held on the stand lets me get up close and cup it without needing to worry about dropping it.

The experts here are probably holding their heads in their hands already.... but, for me... it's like a first car. I'm learning to drive... once I've done that, I can get at least half the cost of this stuff back from Ebay... and then go for something with more punch. Money well spent, to my mind.

Re's, J.


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Subject: Subject: Re: [Harp-L] cheapo amp?



In response to Richard Hunter,

"<....My feeling is  that I'd rather practice with a relatively  cheapo
Amp <and mic just in case I do something to screw it up, and put  what
money I <do have to spend into what I think of as "quality" gear at  this
point  - <the harmonicas themselves."

.....was my statement, not Andrew's.

and then Richard responds:

"The only point in buying gear, at any price, is to get something  that
sounds good. "Cheap" does not necessarily equate to "bad sounding."
There's plenty of good cheap gear; in the 35-plus years I've  been
playing, gear has never cost less or sounded better.  But if the  only
consideration is price, there's a good chance that the buyer will end  up
with something that doesn't sound very good with harp. That's  why
there's no point in buying any old 10W guitar amp that happens to be  on
sale cheap.  Most guitar amps don't sound very good with harp, and  with
the really cheap ones, it's hard to modify them so they do. And an  amp
that doesn't sound good has two big problems: 1) it's not inspiring  to
play through it, and 2) when other people hear you playing through  it,
you don't sound very good to them, either.

It should be possible  to find a decent used small (5-10W) class A tube
amp in the neighborhood of  $150-$200. As an alternative, an inexpensive
but very functional amp modeler  like the Digitech RP50 can be bought for
about $70, and you could add a  10-15W keyboard amp to that for
$100-$150.  You'll have to put in some  hours with the amp modeler to get
a good sound, but there are plenty of good  sounds in there.

It's not easy to find something that sounds  really good with harp for
much less than that. And if it doesn't sound really  good, I just
wouldn't buy it.

Regards, Richard Hunter"

....much obliged. That is my feeling too. I've never equated "cheap" (I
prefer inexpensive) with "bad" either. (I'm one of the world's best shoppers
<g>) I'd also heard offlist from someone else who believes as you do and
uses similar equipment, but I certainly appreciate all the information I can get
and your taking the trouble to educate those of us who have no knowledge of
gear and want to start off slowly at first.


Something else I'd realized on reading many of the back and forth responses,
especially those mentioning keeping an Amp for "50 years", was that a lot of
younger players seem to assume that a "newbie" is always young. Ain't
necessarily so. I played harmonica as a child and then didn't play for 30 years.
I'm no kid, and while I doubt keeping an Amp that long would land me in the
Guinness Book of World Records, it'd still be quite an achievement if I was
able to raise harp to lips then....let alone hauling around an Amp.


Elizabeth


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