Re: [Harp-L] Re: OB style Klezmer on the diatonic - introducingJasonRosenblatt



Tim makes some excellent points here, simply putting it, I like to think of the "OB technique" as a way of "allowing" the Diatonic Harmonica ,which already has some unique sounds and tonalities....a way to play otherwise "unfindable" notes.

Not only to play them, but keep them in that "Soulful" context of the Diatonic Harmonica and create a NEW way of saying something musically!

The key word here being "musically"....yeah we can go on arguing for light years about what is legitimally "Musical"....

So I'm choosing not to use words or terms like "Legitimate" or "Musical" in their traditional sense....Let me just putforth a musical analogy:

Let us take a pretty song like "Till there was You"
You can listen to two very wonderful versions ie:
The Music Man musical soundtrack or even the VERY pretty Beatles version.

Now, if you REALLY have big ears, seek out the
Live Version of Ray Charles singing this as a Ballad,
my point being that ,Ray is not only stretching and testing out different ways to sing this....but at the end he breaks into a "falsetto" ...(IMO a falsetto has 'some' similarities to what an OB, OD is on the Harmonica
-a false note if we literally interpret it).


You use it when you have something to "say" and conventional notes won't do or can't be found in your normal vocal range or on the rigid confines of the piano.

Anyway, listen to Ray's voice and the Trumpet's too...trust me, you will not be focusing on the intonation or false notes here.......there is a much HIGHER level of music going on, but you have to let your ears 'explore' just like what Ray and Johnny Coles (Trumpet Player's name) are doing on this piece!!

It's a hard explainin' these things, so if you can seek out the record, I'm sure it will make complete sense,-) The Album is Ray Charles "Live in Japan-1975"-'Till there was You' is the song.

All the Best and Listen wide it all music!,-)
Rob Paparozzi

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Moyer" <wmharps@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [Harp-L] Re: OB style Klezmer on the diatonic - introducingJasonRosenblatt




Ben Felten wrote:
Now many "overblowers" feel, and often rightly so, that they can
play things that most laymen can't. The problem, is that they end
up playing these things because they can. And that's > some aspect of pride and ego at being able to pull off stun a group with something
particularly tasteful, certainly because they could, but not because
others couldn't.

The other aspect that I often hear listening to records by
overblowers is overconfidence. Because they are so proficient
technically, they think they can pull off stuff that, in fact,
they can't quite pull off. They overreach, of you will. Give me
any record by Howard Levy (and I have many) and I'll point out to

Tim Moyer:
I think there's something to be said for reaching above your
ability, not below, for practicing and performing and recording
things that stretch your abilities.  I'd rather hear Carlos Del
Junco do something really innovative and miss a couple of notes than
hear the same old rehashed blues number for the umpteenth time
played "flawlessly".

I remember discussing this with one of the top guys of that
particular crowd in Europe. The man can play jazz that will make
your jaw drop, be-bop at breaking pace, etc. When I asked him why
he never played slow, he had the honesty of admitting that the
chances that an overblow will squeak or sound odd when playing
slow are much higher. How is that a musical decision ?

I find it hard to believe that a person's entire musical style is
based on the idea that playing faster makes it easier to "hide" a
particular type of note or intonation. That maybe a side effect
that makes it easier, but, some people like to play a lot of notes
fast (and not just harmonica players -- check out John Coltrane or
Ornette Coleman). In fact, it's very difficult to hit overblows
quickly and in passing without choking them.> expression of human emotion and ideas.


Instead of a performance being a set of perfectly sculpted cubes
stacked together in regular rows, it's more like a collection of
uneven, irregular stones assembled by a skilled mason into a
beautiful mélange.

-tim

Tim Moyer
Working Man's Harps
http://www.workingmansharps.com/





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