I did mention that I was **honked off** and I bent the 5 hole. I did it extremely hard. I can bend the 5 just fine now. It doesn't sound very good but i can slide it. Actually I was mad because I was having such a hard time bending the 3 hole. I just slid up and wailed on the 5 hole. Not very smart I admit but my "mads" have always been stupid! Jim